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  1. LOL, got the same with my AsRock, but the variance is larger than what you are [email protected] vcore my 'range' for the vcore jumps from as low as 1.40 up to 1.55 under stress testing full load, a huge .15 difference....doesn't seem to hurt the runnings at all.....haven't really paid much attention to it..... wouldn't it be nice if there was a sensor on the PWM line that read the load and INCREASED v's slightly and automatically under load and conversely REDUCED v's when the demand is not present, one can wish...my DFI 790FX/SB600 M2R holds the volts rather steady compared to the AsRock board, but it has some minor issues with the PWM I don't want to get into right now..... laterzzzz..............
  2. don't stop @2.4, go directly to 2.8, the last setting you got to work properly....then start some stress testing to check stability....you may have to add small smidgen of juice to the CPU or the ramski to get it all 'happy' again....once you get infected it is hard to stop, LOL...and you will enjoy the little 'extra boost' from the clockage.... good luck... laterzzzz.................
  3. it could also be>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what powersupply are you using? could be a circuit feedback issue with the PS...... very annoying when this happens, the only solution is a better PS......... bummer on the 'cold boot' issues, every Manu seems to have it own, err, quirks.... laterzzzz..............
  4. DSL2008 hit it right on the head.....I read all the comments here regarding your clockage..... Marne Aeok >>>>You need to step back and start over, establish the parameters of the ram ceiling and the CPU ceiling and the overall HTT ceiling, this has been pointed out several times, then, once you have figured all that out, BLEND them to get your best, stable, overclock for daily runnings.....suicide runs are a bit different, but the same rules apply, one change at a time, to see what is.... How can you expect to really understand stuffs without taking the time?....... And, every cpu reacts a bit differently, you may just have one that tops out a bit lower than your expectations, beating yer head against the perverbial wall... clock on.... laterzzzz............
  5. what with all the high temps, I am running with water (pelt chilled), and right now I am idling @4*c and 9*c on the two cores, maxes at 38*c/44*c under full load....this is with a 6400+ clocked to 3.5 (will do 3.6 max)...uh, stock volts.. laterzzz...............
  6. the side mount fan, remove it and install it on the outside, I did this with my Thermaltake Armour case and the side 250mm fan to get the WC to clear the side panel, once mounted and the grill replaced, looks factory, pic can be provided upon request.... laterzzzz...........
  7. thermaltake Armour series (8003/8004/8005), lots of room, nice spots up top for radiator and resi.... even after you install the water, you will still have tons of room for drives and whatnot... laterzzz............
  8. appears to be a mems problem Product 256-1 is the tipoff... run memtest to see if you mems are erroring, you may have a stick that is going bad. You might be able to raise the Vdimm and get everything okay again........ see what is with the mems testing.... laterzz...............
  9. hehe. XP64bit is really not XP at all, but server 2003 with some work done to it.... as Krow stated, driver support has come to a halt across the board on XP64bit, but 32bit support will continue for some time because of OEM sales and M$ policies......i have a new OEM XP Pro 64bit, nice if you use components that have drivers, but i have issues with one device that i need, so i went Vista 64bit, much better driver support, yes, Vista does have its little problems......tweaked it isn't bad, just a little harder to find stuffs (M$ and more layering, bleh) 64bit FTW, though, 8gig of ramski is NICE.... laterzzzz............
  10. just remember not to get the 'upgrade' version if you are going 64bit as you can not upgrade a 32bit install to 64bit...... if you go OEM, remember that if a part needs to be replaced (upgrade or failure), or if you build a new computer later and want to install Vista again (this after the first computer has been deactivated and without Vista), you will have to deal with Microsoft to get it reactivated, and you have to be very careful about what you say to them. if you get retail it is mucho easier if you migrate the OS to a new machine down the roadie... latertzzzz...................
  11. he is gone, but this speaks volumes "And bldegle2 I REINSTALLED VISTA already, think I already posted that 2 times. How I tested components? Simply looked on the internet for the propper temperatures and voltages and cheked them through EVEREST." LOL, I guess checking the net for proper temps and voltages downloading Everest and checking said WAS THE STRESS TEST. To the OP, dude, you never tried or mentioned you tried anything in an effort to isolate the problem....multiple choice to follow a>expected a miracle and kinda copped a 'tude b>omitted until the 2nd to last postage that NO STRESS testing nor proper driver removal and reinstall were done.... c>leaves miffed because people are on his case when all they were doing is finding out what had already been done in an effort to help resolve the problem....obviously not much d>maybe a troll as mentioned e>young kid with nothing to do in his cave f>all of the above Maybe he will come back after the XP64bit install.....I got everything to work in the 64bit XP, but I also had to do some research and I had a couple of items that had no drivers for XP64bit, Vista 64bit had them....judging from the OP and his testing habits, he may find XP64bit no easier than Vista 64bit was.............. Darn, I just checked his other postages RE his overclockage and ram settings problems, kinda the same thing, not much information to asked questions, posted rig specs once but never made a sig as requested...kinda ignored suggestions, he does have ramski that requires a bump in the bios to get it to work OCZ Reapers, defaults to 1.5, needs 1.75 to run properly on his board....sounds like more of the same.... and he is a youngin.... Here's hoping.. laterzzz..................
  12. all this bickering...............did you DO the visits to the manu's, obtain the latest drivers, clean up your install with driver cleaner, then report back??? my guess is no......if you are not willing to troubleshoot by investing some time then we can't help you..... all of the suggestions come from members personal experiences or something they picked up on a BBS somewhere, it ain't rocket science..... your problem is either hardware related (mems, PS, jeesh, even temperature problems) or some kind driver problem or conflict............. personally I have chased problems that defied me for days, even weeks, only to find out it was the simplest of problems, unplug the new USB device, walla.......visit website, download latest drivers (as suggested here), walla, no more problems....I only put this out as an example....another example is OS installs, such as you mention, a bad stick on memory (or mems that is not completely compatible with your setup, yes, it happens a lot) can throw you into fits, or a PS that degrading, heck, I can make my CD/DVD whatever fade out when installing winders and maybe stretching the mems a bit too much, so you think it is your CD/DVD whatever when actually it is your mems causing another problem.... again, if you are not willing to do the time trying to resolve the problem it ain't going away, well, in your case, maybe it is if you give up and go to another OS...admittedly, Vista isn't the next coming of Christ, but with some very minor tweaking and 8 gigs of ramski (I run with 64bit)and SP1, it isn't all that bad.....I personally tried Vista several times, even bought a dual DVD kit (32bit and 64bit), tried it, had problems, sold it before I activated it, went back to XP, tried XP 64bit and had problems with drivers for some of the stuff I use, then back to XP 32bit, but then I was PO'd as I wasn't using all of this expensive ram I got, bought another dual 'kit' (this time with separate install keys), tried Vista 64bit several more times, and I can finally say it can be conquered......larges gobs of memory are huge blessings when rendering especially.... and in closing this statement has me a bit worried from your second postage: "I put the computersetup together, a friend of mine had built it because i'm not good with CPU's. Temperatures and voltages are fine I don't see how this is a hardware issue.. Everything works good, GPU is fast, CPU is good, power's good, RAMs good" How did you test the components???? I am assuming from your comments you picked the parts, but a friend did the build because you lack some rig building time (we all started somewhere, no biggie), and you did the original OS install and then subsequent installs, or did your friend do the OS install and you are now having problems???? Knowing this can go a long way on understanding..... and a complete listing of components in the rig will help, MB, ram, PS, CPU, vid, and any other addon, HD's, running raided or a single drive, etc, be specific ...................... laterzzzzz.........
  13. I reread the OP's original postage and subsequent second postage and comment.....I see no mention of him/her, taking to heart the recommendations of others, just complaining....this sounds like a driver or chipset driver issue. I have seen this numerous times with different sites I visit and usually a simple thing is what gets the performance back up to snuff... I have a few questions, is this a rig built by the OP, built by friend, or is it a retail product like Dell or HP???? My whole body shuddered when I typed Dell and HP...... It would be good to know what kind of experience the OP has, just to make sure communication is not being directed based on perceived experience, or lack thereof..... I am sure it can be 'fixed', LOL laterzzz............
  14. Ditto on Vista 64bit smoothness, there is something not right on your setup, heck, I have a system that would be considered low end to your quad (AMD 6400+BE, 8 gig ramski, DFI board, a little clockage), and it runs smooth.... The only thing I can think of is MB drivers and/or maybe a vid card problem with the 'factory clockage', methinks there might be some user error involved.... Upgrading/downgrading to XP64bit will bring its own problems, yes, there is vast support out there, but driver and fix developement was stopped time ago, I found that I got it about 99%, there was one program that had issues, the Manu responded to me that further developement of XP64 drivers had stopped (it is a program I need), so dual boot or go Vista 64bit... Went the Vista route, you tinker on it a bit, you can get it to work rather well....you need to step back and regroup.... Good luck... laterzzzz.............
  15. confused a bit here, you stated that you have done a 'clean' install several times, but with the most recent postage you alluded to a w32 viri? do you have other HDs attached to your system, and exactly what is on those drives (maybe like a general download folder?) ....... don't keep spinning your wheels in the mud, clean up the viri first on the other drives right now, then DISCONNECT them, and then do another clean install with your main HD....BTW, is your main HD partitioned with the OS on one partition and data on another????? if that is the case and the unit hasn't been cleaned up of viri, you can load and reload the OS until the pigs come homey on your clean OS partition............. have you run a diagnostic on the HD? (get the proggie from the HD manu) that would be the first thing I would do, it is a place to start and at least would tell you whether to waste anymore time with the HD in question....sometimes HD's get confused and a 'zero fill' sequence can bring them back to life, I have done this more than once..... just some ideas to chew on, good luck.... laterzzzz..............
  16. Vista 64bit, I have installed it many times, the 'stall' you are experiencing I have duplicated numerous times, it comes down to bios settings (in my case, it was the ram and the HTT I was running), and, yes, your ram may pass every test in the world, but when it comes to a Vista 64bit install there can be annoying problems, the same setup installs XP 32bit and XP 64bit without problems....My current Vista 64bit install I did with the full compliment of 8 gigs of ramski onboard, but I had to completely restart the install several times before I got an acceptable bios configuration to do the deed without hitches or stalls.....the ram settings would make the CD Rom wig out, once they got right.............YMMV I found sometimes a little 'adjustment' might be necessary to get the install to go without 'hangs', maybe a bit more juice to the ram is all you need to get the performance you expect, or a manual adjustment to timings, or, as mentioned by a previous poster, 1 stick o ram for install, add the rest later...... Vista 64bit can be a nightmare on the install side sometimes, good components sometimes need manual adjustments.....even after you install, there are numerous tweaks that need applying to get the HD activity down to a liveable level.......or to even get more than 1 stick of ram to work..... Obviously, if you are clocking at all, a return to stock settings is the first thing you may want to try....I don't subscribe to this form of install however, I prefer to install at my clocked settings, the stress of the install will test your clockage rather well........and I never accept an install that has to be rebooted numerous times just to get the install moving along again........it is always an indication of deeper problems.... Laterzzzz...................
  17. go here, read up.... http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/ShowPost....31&SiteID=1 several suggestions are contained just on first page, I think you can resolve this with a short read.... all I did was a quick net search, seems to be not that uncommon.. laterzzzz................
  18. the Thermaltake 8003 series is the one you want to get...I have mine sitting on 4x4 blocks to get it up and out of the floor 'dust zone', yes, the fans still suck in dust, just a lot less, the 250mm side fan cools the whole unit and runs quiet... The only mod I made was to take the 250 from the inside mounting position and mounted outside, it was a snap, just remove four screws, move, remount, a couple of small dabs of superglue gel hold the massive grill/filter in place.....I had to do this so the radiator and pump would fit anyway....looks factory....the grill is easy to clean, the front 120mm is behind the same kind of grillage neatly concealed behind the unused drive bay popouts....again, very easy to clean when the need arises.... The room on the inside is amazing, I have 5 Hd's in the case, along with the usual suspects, still room for more.... You made a good choice. The only drawback is the case is kinda heavy, but it is quality through and through... Laterzzzz......
  19. I am presently triple booting, WinXPPRO32/64bit and Vista 64bit. I decided the only way to really compare................ WinXPPro64bit is the loser here, sorry to say, not because I don't like it (I like it the best), but there are some specific items that I can not use in the XP64bit arena, and the vendor has flat out told me they only support xp32bit and vista32/64bit, XP64bit will not be getting any drivers (FU Micro$shaft for being so supportive, not)....so, not by choice, I am deleting the XPPro64bit install and going with XPPro32bit and Vista Ultimate 64bit....now, if someone writes divers after the fact to work, my decision will change...there are a few dead ends tha XP64bit will never solve unless third party driver support from the community surfaces... With the Vista SP1 update assimilated and having no problems I am moving on...................bummer, I like the XP64bit, maybe because it was so similiar to the 32 bit, with Vista you have to tear into the layers, but, like with everything, the community is figuring that out too.....once you get around to deploying the TRUE administrator in Vista (buried by MS), life gets a whole lot easier with with what seems like numerous deadend installs :angry2: It is what it is, unless third party support from users get rolling, XP64bit progress is kinda in limbo, works great, but there are holes left over from poor manu support that will never be filled... Better get used to it, it is what it is... Laterzzzz.............
  20. "VistaBootPro" is a definate go on the boot loader, and, I might add this................ I avoided any conflicts with XP and Vista by loading each on their own separate hard drives (loaded as the only HD in da system), then after loading both OS's and getting the ships tight with all the updates and drivers and whatever, I then put both in the rig and use VistaBoot Pro to get everything in order. It is much better IMHO to go this way, the VistaBootPro software works like a charm, and, unlike the winders boot loader, it doesn't go bananas on you down the roadie.... By doing the install this way, you have NOTHING from either OS load that is residing on the other HD (YES, IT DOES HAPPEN).... Whatever, I am actually triple booting XP32/64 and Vista 64 with the bootloader, nice... laterzzz..........
  21. "Now, I have seen a few guides online and I know for a fact some of the stuff they suggest is just.... wrong." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> totally agree....I personally have had to reinstall fresh/clone my HD so many times because of excessive tweaking....depending on your time and patience, it can be a bit annoying to say the least... good way to learn , though, LOL..... laterzz...
  22. "hey I got it fixed a few days ago." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mysteries....hey, it would be nice if you shared the solution, this is a forum afterall, knowledge needs to be shared, that way when it happens again....... glad to hear you got it working properly... laterzzzz
  23. or here http://www.tweakxp.com/ has Vista tweaks too, and additional linkage... just another resource... good luck....
  24. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uh, I don't know what you typed in the search window when you did your search, but I came up with numerous solutions, even followed the links to verifiy.. try again, maybe with a few different search strings... also, if you are running XP or later, you have to turn off the system restore software, reboot, remove the virus, then, reactivate system restore, otherwise it comes back again and again and again........ hehe, those pron sites do it all the time...i use a disposable non networked laptop for that.....never my main rig, LOL laterzzzz...............
  25. all you have to do is modify the boot.ini... i had this problem when i cloned a drive recently, still booted to windows after the error, but it was annoying..... i have another clean install on my lappy, so I just copied the correct boot.ini from the good rig to the one that i cloned, walla, problem solved... also, if you loaded Vista with the XP install still attached to the unit, it can do some things that will frustrate you.....when i switch OS's, i have enter the bios and load one of the backup bios saved on my DFI....a little annoying, but is eliminates install fubarage like you have experienced... good luck... laterzzz....
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