Dobandids Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 Hi, I would to ask some advise and suggestion on how to Overclock my PC, please bare in mind that I'm a total noob. My budget PC specs are: AMD PII x3 710 Cooler Master Sphere CPU cooler Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4 4 gigs of OCZ reaper 1066 ram Tisonic 460 watts PSU Leadtek 6600td (ancient xD) 2 fans 1dvd rom 1 80 gig sata HDD http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/kapow1/cpuz1.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/kapow1/cpuz2.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/kapow1/cpuz3.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/kapow1/cpuz4.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/kapow1/cpuz5.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/kapow1/tempstock.jpg Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maj0rgamer Posted May 3, 2009 Posted May 3, 2009 (edited) that appears to be a black edition cpu... is that the case? if so, overclocking it should be very easy. but you should download and install some programs in order to test for stability and monitor temperatures. please download occt and prime 95 by clicking on the colored links, install them, and provide the information as to whether your cpu is a black edition or regular edition. Edited May 3, 2009 by Maj0r Gamer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
werty316 Posted May 3, 2009 Posted May 3, 2009 (edited) The X3 710 is not a Black Edition chip; the X3 720 is. I suggest you do some research if you are new to overclocking: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=252299 http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-mai...king-guide.html Good luck Edited May 3, 2009 by werty316 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobandids Posted May 3, 2009 Posted May 3, 2009 Thanks for the reply, the cpu is not a Black Edition, but when I looked into the bios the multiplier seem to be unlocked, and the highest multiplier is x13 to less. This is how I think this work in my case, 200x13=2.6ghz(my current and cpu stock speed), if I increase the fsb to 220 I should reach 2.8gzh, am I right? Do I have to increase the voltage too, and what about my ram? Since last night, when I upgraded from Win XP pro 64 to Win Vista ultimate, CPUID is now reading a different Code name, and the core speed readings switches from 800x4 to 200x13. http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/kapow1/cpuid1.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/kapow1/cpuz1.jpg see the different code names from the 1st picture to the 2nd? IDK, if its my system or CPUID. Sorry for my bad English, Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
werty316 Posted May 3, 2009 Posted May 3, 2009 (edited) On a unlocked CPU, you can adjust the CPU's multiplier upwards or downwards. On a locked CPU, you can only adjust the CPU's multiplier downwards. The reason why your core speed switches from 800x4 to 200x13 is most likely because of AMD's Quiet N' Cool feature. As for your CPU code having a different name, it could be because you are using two different versions of CPU-z but "Heka" is the correct CPU code name for your CPU. Edited May 3, 2009 by werty316 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobandids Posted May 3, 2009 Posted May 3, 2009 Now I get it, thanks werty. one last question, would you recommend I turn of cool and quiet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maj0rgamer Posted May 3, 2009 Posted May 3, 2009 (edited) hello again dobandids, and welcome to the occ forum by the way; there should be no worry about the clock speed of the ram, it's quality ram and shouldn't even need to be messed with at all in order to get a pretty solid cpu overclock. have you tested the ram to make sure it's stable? if not, you should download the bootable iso for memtest86 and burn a disk... boot with it and test the memory, in order to be sure that it's free of any errors that may cause problems with the overclock or system performance in general. you should also be warned that overclocking can cause harm to your system, mainly the cpu chip itself... if you're not careful and push too much too fast, it could fry the cpu and motherboard as well. however, if you take your time and increase things in small increments and test for stability as needed, there is a very minimal chance of causing damage... but there is still a chance, as cpu's come from the manufacturer guaranteed at what they rate it and that's it... anything more is trial and error. there are also no guarantees in overclocking, you may see no increase at all... but then again, you may have a fantastic chip that may end up overclocking an extra 1 Ghz (just don't expect that of course)... it's highly likely that you may end up seeing a 1/2 Ghz gain in performance... but again, it's not guaranteed... each chip can be drastically different from the next, even the same chip you have, someone else may get twice the overclock out of the same chip on the same hardware... again... it's trial and error. okay then... the first thing you should do (assuming you have already downloaded and installed occt and prime 95 for testing stability and monitoring temperatures) is go into the bios and make sure the cool and quiet feature is turned off, and if you have a spread spectrum feature in the bios it should be turned off as well... as both of these could interfere with overclocking... make sure to save and exit bios, restart... and go back into the bios. if you go ahead and increase the front side bus in the smallest increment (again, this must be done slowly, with patience... so as not to cause damage to the system and cpu), save and exit bios, and go into windows... you should have either a successful boot or problems. if you have problems, simply restart and go back into the bios and raise the cpu voltage... or v core as it should be called, in the smallest increment possible or by .1 if it has to be done manually and continue to restart until you can successfully boot into windows... when you can get into windows successfully, run a prime 95 torture test for cpu and ram for about ten or fifteen minutes to check for stability... put prime 95 in the background and run occt to watch the temperatures while the torture test is running (cpu temp should go no higher than 70C under load to be safe, but ideally should be kept as low as possible around 30-50C or lower depending on the entire cooling setup and case you may have). if prime 95 passes for the ten or fifteen minute duration, and you still want more overclock, simply follow the same steps above until you reach the overclock you want or until you cant get into windows (if you run into problems and need to reset the bios, check your motherboard manual and find out how to reset cmos... there should be a button on the motherboard or a jumper to do this). keep in mind that, too much voltage can cause damage to a cpu and when overclocking, it should be kept in moderation... a .5 Ghz increase in cpu frequency is quite a good general goal to have, much more than that without supreme air cooling or water cooling is not realistic... and when increasing voltage, if your chip is already at say... 3.75... you should perhaps not push it much further than 4.5 vcore max (and only increae it if it's needed...if you can get an overclock to where you want it without changing voltage, this is the most ideal thing to do). once you get the cpu to the speed you want or when it reaches it's max for your system, you should run a prime 95 torture test for 12-24 hours to be sure it can handle the overclock and remain stable... this is important, or problems could arise later on. if you have any questions, please feel free to ask... keep in mind, that these are just general thoughts... nothing is guaranteed in overclocking, but it should give you the idea hopefully. Edited May 3, 2009 by Maj0r Gamer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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