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In Topic: Max-Q GTX 1070 in ultra slim chassis – GS63VR 7RG Stealth Pro Intro

01 September 2017 - 08:29 AM

Behind the GS63VR could find the dual ventilator and “STEALTH” naming with three red designed lines to highlight its racing scenario,
and also the efficient exhaust capability has been managed.
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The dark-purple pad has been placed at D side with certain range to prevent the scratch, which little bit feels like suede.
In the picture you could find more exhaust wholes at the button. Dual speaker holes are set in upper side.
Specification of the battery is 3-cell with 64.98Wh, packed inside the machine and it’s not attachable design.
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The power adaptor features 180w, little bit smaller than HP 200w.
Beside the specification and the performance of this high-end gaming laptop been ranked, the slim exterior appearance and weight,
even the design of the power adaptor are all with high mobility and delivers great convenience to mobile workers.
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Not only the hardware specification of 3C products are getting more and more important but also the application software been adopted.
MSI Dragon Center is developed and exclusive by MSI, it’s on fleek with page layout and info graph.
You can find App Portal on upper left and shows all the related and installed apps.
System Monitor can show the main hardware status.
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System Tuner
It’s the adjustment page for VR Technology, hardware performance, cooling fan speed or panel lighting level.
Five savable profiles at the left to be used by different purposes.
X boost is the feature to enhance the USB or Storage access capability.
Later will change the Shift function to Sport mode for performance testing, to see how high the GS63VR’s performance could reach.
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MSI True Color 2.0 Color Adjustment software interface
It’s kind of outstanding color adjustment software among personal sharing regarding to high-end gaming laptops or professional graphics laptops.
On official website it describes the cooperation with Portrait Displays, Inc, all the production pieces have been adjusted its color appearance before shipping out.
Before only the famous brand from Japan named EIZO has almost the same process to make sure the most precision color.
We can say MSI had studied hard and put efforts on panel’s color appearance with all the things mentioned above.
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Six color modes have been provided in the application, it’s enough for different users’ scenario.
More color adjustment options are offered in Designer Mode, to deliver more choices for graphics designer or visual specialists.
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It’s still lots of adjustment options in Gamer mode.
The color precision of screen will be changed by the environment, the coordination of hardware and software has done so well with MSI.
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Steelseries Engine3
It provides the lighting management, macro key setting, and virtual keyboard function.
The keycap is certified by Steelseries, though it’s not as good as the tactile of mechanical keyboard,
but this GS63VR has been better than previous generation and even than other laptops.
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Positioned as gaming laptop, the GS63VR adopts Killer Gb LAN and Killer 802.11 a/c WiFi.
Both Ethernet and Wifi combine as Killer DoubleShot Pro, to advertise its great capability in reducing the internet ping value by 30%.
Also, it reduces the jitter during the internet transmission, offers smooth quality during the streaming or gaming.
Personally has some feedback for the interface of Killer Network Manager regarding to the layout and artwork design.
As a huge brand of internet chipset, Qualcomm can make it a better design than an old school one now.
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In Topic: MSI GT62VR High-End gaming notebook with GTX 1060 overview

27 December 2016 - 10:12 PM

Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Siege
1920x1080, graphics in Ultra
Starting screen – 117FPS
Compared to previously tested 970M – 48 FPS, GTX980 -112FPS
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Assassin’s Creed Sundicate
1920x1080, graphic preset is ultra high
Starting screen – 37 FPS
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These past 2 years, INTEL and NVIDIA have started implementing their products into notebooks because of the emerging demand for high performance gaming notebooks.
Though it is true the performance has increased, it brought about even higher unwanted heat and higher power consumption;
and this has always been the biggest challenge for notebook manufacturers to overcome.
Take GT62VR for example, it has GTX1060 for high 3D rendering, outperforming GTX970 and GTX980M.
GTX1060 doesn’t fall short of GTX980 either, few games even benefits more from the new GPU infrastructure.
GeForce GTX 10 Series has increased over efficiency and performance, bringing gaming notebooks a new meaning of high 3D rendering performance.

windwithme opened up GT62VR 6RD DOMINATOR the bottom chassis to share the internal layout and its components.
Left side are 2 slots for DDR 2400 and a subwoofer; below the keyboard are two DDR4 slots that came with 2x 16GB
Bottom left is the M.2 SSD, bottom right is the 2.5inch SATA3 HDD
On top is MSI’s new generation Cooler Boost 4 cooling module
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Left and right side are embedded with Cooler Boost 4 twin fans design.
Fans are 8cm in diameter and 1.5cm in height.
Copper heat pipes have been coated black and made thicker with extra materials, so as to help GT62VR with improved thermal management.
3 copper heat pipes attached to the i7-6700HQ, and 4 copper heat pipes for the GTX 1060 for the optimal thermal design.
This type of cooling module and thermal design in the gaming notebook market is currently one of the best and the most efficient.
As a result, the notebook might be a little bulkier, but let’s just call this a fair trade-off wouldn’t you think
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Room temperature roughly 29 Deg Celsius, attempting thermal test
First off is the NVIDIA GTX 1060
Shutting off Cooler Boost 4, opening FurMark and we got 49 Deg Celsius on standby and 80 on full speed
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Turning on Cooler Boost 4, opening FurMark and we got 44 Deg Celsius on standby and 69 on full speed
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Thanks to Cooler Boost 4, GTX1060 temperature can decrease at roughly 5 Deg Celsius in standby and 11 Deg Celsius at full speed

CPU standard clocking at 2.6~3.5GHz, power in balance mode
Turning off Cooler Boost 4, operate LinX 0.6.5 at full speed – 71~82
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Turning on Cooler Boost 4, operate LinX 0.6.5 at full speed – 61~74
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During burn test , turning on Cooler Boost 4 helps lower CPU temperature by 8~10 Deg Celsius.
Standby mode doesn’t really show the power of the Cooler Boost 4; it is during full speed performance where Cooler Boost 4 really shines.
With these high quality hardware, the level of thermal management on GT62VR is exceptionally satisfactory
Cooler Boost 4 doesn’t really create a lot of noise, plus it is usually at low frequency, which helps encourage its usage

Built with GTX1060 while playing a DVD video, 70% after an hour, 10% after 3 hours.
Battery lasts roughly 3 hours, which is still considered adequate for a high end gaming PC

Concluding GT62VR 6RD DOMINATOR
Its unique appeals and advantages
1.Top Cover A side has 2 strips of glowing red lines, creating that speed sensation
2.Uses NVIDIA GTX 1060, greatly increasing 3D rendering performance
3.Both Wifi and Ethernet uses Killer Gaming Processor, supports Killer Shield
4.Frosted IPS Panel that supports 100% RGB and 72% NTSC; and provides True Color screen customization technology
5.New DRAGON CENTER provides refined and a more intuitive layout for the users
6.Cooler Boost 4 twin fan cooling module with thicker copper heat pipes provide outstanding passive cooling compare to other NB of its category
7.Dynauido technology combined with NAHIMIC 2 audio enhancer, giving that remarkable audio experience
8.Provides 4-DIMM DDR4 slots, clocks at 2400, giving better bandwidth and performance
9.Steelseries Engine 3, RGB management, as well as many other customizable options on the keyboard
10.15.6inch notebook weighin at 2.93kg, lighter than DELL’s Alienware 15’s 3.2kg notebook

1.Chassis could be made a little slimmer, or lower the rubber foot on the bottom might be better
2.SteelSeries keyboards lack feedback and a bit on the soft side. More feedback would feel better
3.WebCam quality could use a little more work
4.B and D sides frosted material could maybe use a little refinement or use a different material to elevate the texture
5.If the ventilation in the back could be made to look similar to the GT72S, with a touch of red strips along the lines, could elevate the overall appeal.

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Performance ?????????? 88/100
Hardware ?????????? 88/100
Specs ?????????? 90/100
Appeal ?????????? 80/100
Price ?????????? 82/100

This time around, MSI high end gaming notebooks have earned the reputation of faster product refresh compared to other manufacturers
Lots of models are already VR Ready, and have been upgraded to GTX10 Series GPU to increase 3D performance.
Furthermore, GT62VR has also improved features like the DRAGON CENTER, Cooler Boost 4, NAHIMIC 2, and more.
A side has also been refined to look more sporty, and plus True Color can help with even more screen customization options

Many of GT62VR’s advantages are in their internal design and use of components. Externally would be the audio and the design.
But personally they could use a little more work on the exterior. Maybe it’s to reduce weight, that they had to sacrifice other aspects to find a balance.
These are some of my insights after tested a few high end notebooks.
If they don’t mind increasing the weight, and change to more DELL Alienware-like high quality chassis would be helpful as well
Afterall, GT is MSI’s top gaming notebook model, primarily focusing on the highest performance capacity;
which is why price, weight, and dimensions are relatively higher. But MSI also has the GS for slim and GE for the more affordable options to choose from
In the high end market, GT62VR with its aggressive sleek design and quality build, definitely has the competitive edge facing its rivals.

This article is also published in the younger brother’s blog: WIND3C, 3D enthusiasts are welcome to visit.

In Topic: MSI GT62VR High-End gaming notebook with GTX 1060 overview

27 December 2016 - 09:57 PM

Nahimic 2 Audio Software in recent years has been implemented to all high end MSI gaming notebooks.
Settings and customizations have been refined as well; for example, HD Audio Recoder on top right already has a second generation interface
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When talking about the sound speakers produce, it is often subjective to each individual, which is why we’ll focus on how notebook’s built-in speakers perform.
The speakers creates quite a stir when turned on full blast, reaching over 95.2dBA
High Frequency – no high pitched sound, detailed sound, outstanding performance overall
Mid Frequency – excellent details with outstanding voice clarity
Low Frequency – adequate performance, bass isn’t too blend; but mid and high frequency easily overpowers low frequency
MSI GT62VR speakers combined with Nahimic 2 audio enhancer perform even better in music, watching movies, or playing games.
The immersive sound performance is complementary to the gaming genre.
Its specialty is creating a surround-like environment with outstanding clarity, but mid frequency’s voice output still got some room for improvement

GT62VR is a high end gaming notebook with several different models already been pushed out.
Today’s test will be using a higher model GT62VR 6RD Dominator 013TW.
However, there’s a rumor that there will be an even higher model GT62VR in the near future, equipped with the latest NVIDIA GTX1070 GPU with INTEL’s 6th Generation i7 Core processor.
There’s already been a few models sharing the same CPU performance previously, but let’s quickly walk through 6700HQ CPU’s software performance.


CINEBENCH R15
CPU => 673 cb
CPU(Single Core) => 138 cb
Fritz Chess Benchmark => 25.70/12335
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FRYRENDER
Running Time => 5m 13s
x264 FHD Benchmark => 22.8
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Basically high end models carry 4C8T Core i7 architecture, greatly outperforming Core i5, and is quite often seen equipped in high end gaming notebooks. This is usually the more cost effective solution;
because though there are more powerful processors such as the 6820HQ or 6920HQ, they cost more and the performance boost doesn’t always justify the cost

System Performance
PCMARK8 - 4582
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DRAM Performance Test
DDR4 2394.8 CL17 17-17-39 2T
ADIA64 Memory Read - 33613 MB/s
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Most high end notebooks still use DDR4 clocked at 2133, and MSI’s previous generation Gaming notebooks are no exception.
MSI’s new gaming notebooks will increase DDR4 clocking to 2400, increasing bandwidth and performance
ADIA64 Memory Read gets a 10~14% bandwidth increase compared to 2133.
This upgrade will also marginally increase fps while gaming, though not significant, still worth mentioning for its improvement

Storage is one of MSI’s unique features, using their own Super Raid 4 technology
SSD with NVMe M.2 interface, TOSHIBA THNSN5256GPU7, using 16nm MLC IC
HDD with HGST HTS721010A9E630, performs at 7200 rpm with 1TB capacity
AS SSD Benchmark -2372
Seq Read - 2087.97 MB/s Write - 888.82 MB/s
4K - 64Thrd Read - 827.21 MB/s Write - 588.00 MB/s
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3DMARK Fire Strike => 9627
Consumers are encouraged to spend a little more money on upgrading their computer components these 2 years.
First and foremost should be the GPU; second should be the NVMe infrastructure M.2 SSD which greatly surpasses SATA3’s limitation at 600 MB/s transfer capacity by a significant margin.
Of course there is also the U.2 interface that works slightly more efficiently than the M.2, but by a small margin and won’t fit inside a notebook.
Ultimately, having NVMe infrastructure M.2 SSD would help transfer data at faster pace
There are two GPUs built inside; one is Intel Core i7-6700HQ internal HD Graphics 530;
the other one is the NVIDIA GeForce GTX1060 with 6GB GDDR5. Below is the performance test result for the 1060
3DMARK Fire Strike => 9627
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Heaven Benchmark 4.0
DX11 1920 X 1080 => FPS 113.8
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Call of Pripyat Benchmark
Resolution 1920x1080, in Ultra setting, rest are default settings
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FAR CRY 4
Resolution 1920x1080, 3D rendering in Ultra setting
Opening title screen – 173 FPS, opening animation and starting screen – 75FPS
75 FPS compared to previously tested 970M – 48FPS, GTX980 – 83FPS
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In Topic: MSI GT62VR High-End gaming notebook with GTX 1060 overview

27 December 2016 - 09:54 PM

Left body IO
From left, anti-theft lock \ USB 2.0 \ Line-in \ Line-out \ Mic-in \ Headphone-out
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Right body IO
From left, SD(XC/HC)card reader \ 3 x USB 3.0
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Rear IO
From left, RJ45 Ethernet Port \ Thunderbolt 3 including USB 3.1 \ HDMI \ Mini- Display Port \ Power Jack
Both left and right sides consist of large heat-dissipating surfaces
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GT62VR D side resembles GT72S, applying a sleek red chassis with large surface area.
Battery is 8-Cell generating 75.24wHr, but is not detachable
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The small protruding red square is the woofer
And the 5 rubber feet on the bottom helps elevate the notebook by a bit, assisting in heat-dissipation and stability
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MSI Applications
DRAGON CENTER is a proprietary software developed by MSI
Latest updates improved interface resolution, also giving a more refined and intuitive layout
App Portal tab shows installed software and apps, helps easier access to different features
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System Monitor displays current hardware status
The entire layout is more intuitive and informative compared to the older versions
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System Tuner
Allows users to tweak settings for VR, hardware performance, fan speed, or adjust screen colors.
On the left are 5 profiles where you can personalize each one to use in different settings
Later we’ll use Shift Mode and set it to Sports for optimal performance, then test how powerful this notebook really is.
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LED Wizard
Though users can already customize their RGB keyboard through SteelSeries Engine 3, MSI designed the DRAGON CENTER to have its own lighting functions
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MSI TRUE COLOR
I am personally quite fond of this technology; it gives users a more elaborate screen color customizations,
which is a function that is rare to see in a notebook
MSI has 6 preset settings available on the go.
Users can freely toggle through different settings to their preference, even allowing them to make detailed adjustments within each presets
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In Topic: Big 4K screen workstation – thin and light MSI WS72 revealed

16 September 2016 - 10:05 PM

WS72’s drive C includes SAMSUNG MZVPV128HDGM 128GBX2 M.2 SSD
The drive D is HGST HTS721010A9E630 which specs are 7200 RPM and 1 TB capacity for storing files
Below is a benchmark test of 128GBX2 M.2 SSD Raid0 on the Drive C 
AS SSD Benchmark - 2448
Seq Read - 2752.91 MB/s Write - 1301.17 MB/s
4K - 64Thrd Read - 977.29 MB/s Write - 307.52MB/s
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CrystalDiskMark 
Seq Read - 3183MB/s Write - 1357MB/s
ATTO DISK Benchmark, when exceeding 32k on the above test, can show the read speed equal to 3330Mb/s and the write speed equal to 1378MB/s
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WS72 includes MSI SUPER RAID4 technology which is when two M.2 SSD cards are run in Raid0 mode.
With high-performance M.2 SSD you can boost the read/write performance speed while with SATA3 it’s hard to achieve such a bandwidth.
It’s said that the read speed can be as high as 3300MB/s. 
It’s also certainly achievable according to ATTO. CrystalDiskMark also shows close number: 3200.
MSI equipped with a conventional large-capacity HDD which is indeed good as it expands the storage space. 
If SSD price continues to decrease in the future, with the internal space of 512GB or higher it won’t be really necessary to embed HDD. 
The notebook will then be even lighter. 
 
With room temperature about 32 degrees, proceeding to CPU cooling capacity test.
The CPU being at a preset value of 2.8~3.7GHz, GPU running with Quadro M2000M, with power supply on the turbo mode. 
With Cooler Boost 3 used as a cooling technology, the system’s idle temperature is about 39~42. 
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AIDA64 System Stability Test - 81~89
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WS72’s outer shell’s temperature feels a bit higher than the notebooks made from other materials. 
This is because thermal conduction on metal body is more direct and more evident. 
With embedded 4C8T Architecture’s Xeon which is the same Core i7 CPU’s, CPU temperature is only 42 degrees in standby mode thanks to outstanding cooling capacity. 
However, it doesn’t exceed 90 degrees when CPU is running at its full speed, which is comparable with many thick-body notebooks’ thermal modules. 
In fact, WS72’s cooling capacity is already at a high level. 
It involves up to 5 heat pipes to enhance heat dissipation. 
Also, the noise produced by the radiator can be considered to be partially muted.
Moreover, at the low frequencies, the sound doesn’t feel uncomfortable either. 
 
Battery life endurance, Windows 10 at a balanced power.
After playing DVD video on WS72 for 90 minutes, the battery will be at about 50%.
After 120 minutes, there will be about 33% power left. Maximum usage can be for around 3 hours. 
With such a high-end hardware, 4K resolution screen consumes more power then FHD.
WS72’s life endurance is therefore about average which is considered as a very good battery performance. 
 
Summary of WS72 6QJ’s advantages and disadvantages
Pros of features and advantages:
1.Regarding the external ID design and the shell texture, the notebook’s thickness and weight are truly outstanding.
2.Equipped Intel Xeon CPU and ECC DDR4 enhance stability which is workstation’s requirement.
3.4K high resolution IPS matte panel features 100% NTSC color gamut and 100% Adobe RGB color correction.
4.True color correction technology and a variety of adaptive modes provide more accurate colors.
5.After the evolution of SteelSeries keyboards, the keys’ force feedback feeling is of a high standard among notebooks. 
6.Single speaker sound level brings clear audio experience to users.
7.High-speed 256GB M.2 SSD and 1TB HDD provide both performance and capacity.
8.3-year factory warranty is higher than usual gaming notebook’s 2-year warranty.
 
Cons for future improvements
1.Due to the thin metal body design, users in summer will feel that the laptop’s temperature is slightly higher.
2.Backpack looks like the one from Gaming series.
3.Although the front camera captures at a high level, there’s still a room for quality improvement.
 
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Performance ?????????? 89/100
Material ?????????? 90/100
Specification ?????????? 88/100
ID design        ?????????? 92/100
C/P value        ?????????? 77/100
 
WS72 workstation also includes MSI’ unique gaming technologies and specifications.
It’s worth a credit since individuals used to use DELL or HP workstation.
It terms of audio and keyboard, it’s still graded as a usual notebook, there’s nothing particular to highlight.
Of course, graphics card or Xeon CPU with ECC RAM are workstation’s all requirements.
MSI also has an advantage in its panel calibration. The default colors are bright yet accurate. 
It provides a great help and comfort for working or designing which sounds very impressive to people at first glance. 
 
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WS72 also has some lower-price versions with Core i7, common DDR4 and 1080P panel.
If there’s no demand for high-level hardware, then it also represents a good budget-based choice, even though 3D graphics machines are all in the high-end market. 
 
With every update MSI has been showing some progress or introducing new technology and of course there are some weaknesses or disadvantages.
However, there’s an obvious significant progress comparing to GS70 from the previous generation. This is a good and a positive cycle. 
In terms of visuals and audio, WS72 looks very competitive to windwithme.
After all, a combination of gaming background and workstation make it an excellent notebook.
 
This article is also published in the younger brother’s blog: WIND3C
3D enthusiasts are welcome to visit.