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Want to sell my Ryzen 1700 and get a 8700k. Is it stupid/greedy? Or is it OK?


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#1 Rakanoth

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 01:46 PM

Hello,

I am disappointed with my Ryzen 1700. I lost the silicon lottery and got a bad CPU. It does not overclock well. I am stuck with 3700MHz. With Nzxt Kraken x62, it is 45°C at idle and 75°C under load. My vcore is 1.25v. With anything less this vcore, the system is not stable. CPU Load line calibration is at level 2, VDDSCR_SoC voltage is 1.1v and its calibration is at level 5. I wanted to set  VDDSCR_SoC LLC to level 2 but some people reported on the other forums that their CPU died because of VDDSCR SoC's load line calibration was 2 or 3.

I tried reinstalling CPU cooling system (because I thought it did not sit well onto the CPU) and also tried with the stock cooler and a Noctua cooler. Still running so hot. At least for me. Also tried to reapply the  thermal paste a thousand times. Still so high temps.

Before I bought Ryzen 1700, I had read and watched some reviews and I thought that it would be fine with gaming. The difference with 7700k did not seem so high.  Also, I just bought a new 165hz monitor and now I am reading 8700k reviews and it is whetting my appetite. Apart from this, I don't do video editing etc. but I run several virtual machines from time to time. So, 8700k should still be enough as my main use will be gaming.

Would it be a greedy action to sell my current CPU and motherboard and get a 8700k CPU and motherboard? Financially, I am fine with it. But still ... I don't want to be greedy.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 03:45 PM

I say your reasons are pretty justifiable.


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:32 PM

If you are not happy with it and can't get decent temps now you will not be happy as long as you own it, so sell it and get one you will like. :thumbsup:


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Posted 07 October 2017 - 07:32 AM

You need more vcore to get higher. You need to be around 1.375 to 1.45 for 4.0Ghz if your chip will run the number. Every Ryzen chip I have tested does between 3990Mhz and 4091Mhz.  That is a sample size of 7 processors.  Turn up the pump speed to max on the Kraken and boost your fan speed to manage thermals and push a little harder.  The 8700K is better in some scenarios and the 1700 is better in some. 


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:24 AM

You need more vcore to get higher. You need to be around 1.375 to 1.45 for 4.0Ghz if your chip will run the number. Every Ryzen chip I have tested does between 3990Mhz and 4091Mhz.  That is a sample size of 7 processors.  Turn up the pump speed to max on the Kraken and boost your fan speed to manage thermals and push a little harder.  The 8700K is better in some scenarios and the 1700 is better in some. 

I have to agree with ccoke. I did the same Change (1700 to 8700) and it wasn't that much of a difference for me. Maybe I was lucky with the lottery? ;)



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:57 PM

Wouldn't a 8700K greatly improve the frames per second on his 1080 Ti compared to an Ryzen 1700? He also does need higher frame rates since his monitor supports it. Plus he can further overclock the 8700K compared to the Ryzen 1700. I would sell the 1700 and go with a 8700K.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:50 PM

AMD might be coming out with new processors this spring

somebody else will always have something better than you have

I wouldnt waste my money but if overclocking is fun for you, then that's up to you

but like the guy said above, if you have not even pushed the voltage and thermal limits, you got more work to do, bruh

you can always decide after that



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 04:21 PM

Wouldn't a 8700K greatly improve the frames per second on his 1080 Ti compared to an Ryzen 1700? He also does need higher frame rates since his monitor supports it. Plus he can further overclock the 8700K compared to the Ryzen 1700. I would sell the 1700 and go with a 8700K.

 

 

Seems so in the two games I tested with a GTX 1080. 


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 09:56 PM

Wouldn't a 8700K greatly improve the frames per second on his 1080 Ti compared to an Ryzen 1700? He also does need higher frame rates since his monitor supports it. Plus he can further overclock the 8700K compared to the Ryzen 1700. I would sell the 1700 and go with a 8700K.

 

With 1440P he wouldn't notice, since the GPU is at the front line then.

Even Ryzen 1600 can handle a 1080Ti fine, CPU bottlenecks are a thing of the past with hexacores being the standard.


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