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soundx98
Adding a small LCD to your rig.

Had a bunch of questions regarding the LCD Video Screens in my rigs.
It’s a very easy mod so I’ll try and guide you through the basics of it.







Required :
Video card with simultaneous Dual Monitor Output capability - It’s usually S-Video!
(I think that started with the GF4200 series for NVidia. – check with Card manufacturer to be sure.)
LCD Video Display with at least one Video Input. I use “headrest” LCD monitors from the car stereo industry. 4”, 5”, and 5.6” can usually fit in a 5.25” bay but you’ll need to give up two to three bays if you front mount them. They are generally less than 1” deep. Or you can place them internally so they are viewable through a window. There are big differences in quality and resolution among the screens. Generally, the better the off axis picture the higher the cost.. You may be able to find something on eBay or at your local Mobile Video Specialist. Prices can vary from $50 to $400. Some units are equipped with multiple Video Inputs, remote control, OSD, and even built in speakers. Multiple inputs are great for adding a small camera or second video source.

Many units come with their own “input connection box”. This can be an advantage or a hinderence due to extra cable length (of course it can be cut, shortened and soldered.
S-video to RCA adaptor. This converts the S-Video to the standard RCA style inputs. You’ll lose stability and often get Black and white picture only if you try and modify the S-Video connector. It does use a resistor/capacitor network to combine chrominance and luminance.

S-Video to RCA information
http://www.pccables.com/70714.htm

Here’s a generic video on how to set up the card for dual monitors
http://www.svideo.com/displayvideo.htm

RCA Cord to connect the S-video Adaptor to the monitor (12 to 18 inches long)

Some type of Molex connector to power the unit from your existing PSU or an external 12v PSU (wall type). Some overclockers don’t like the drain on PSU but the LCDs don’t require much wattage.

Solder, tape, heat shrink tubing or whatever to finish electrical connections.

Mounting Hardware du jour (screws, nuts, bolts, brackets) to Mount the LCD screen securely. Some folks will want to fabricate their own metal brackets and drill holes. Depending on screen and placement I highly recommend the use of 3M double sided Exterior tape #4010 and #4011. Super strong and used for mounting mirrors and such. You can also pull the LCD off if necessary or if the location doesn’t seem proper. (Makes sense not to block off the CMOS jumper or screw up airflow within the case obviously.)
Even if used only temporarily. It’s nice to have the tape at hand.

Screen – Shroud – Remote Control – Power Connector and Filter - Video Input box - Monitor Cable (this is NOT an S-Video style plug)
Out Of Box



Dual Inputs


Dual Outputs


This is the Fahrenheit T-6502HRS. We sell them for $299.99. Those are 7” screens above it in their custom headrest. You may be able to get a 8” or 9” as well. The actual “viewing area” of the screen goes up pretty dramatically as screen size increases. Remember the screens are measured diagonally.

Like I said, easy as Hale.

Bit-tech has some excellent info if you want to dive into modding an existing LCD.

Let me know if you have questions. Be more than happy to answer any specifics.

EDIT: Since all my case have "side windows" I always am looking for a good scratch remover/cleaner". I've been using Meguiar's #7 - Professional Show Car Glaze' and have been very impressed with the results. Make sure you pick up a case of elbow grease as well. biggrin.gif
Doomed
nice tut, would BFG Tech 6600gtoc work for the gfx card?
PoppyMcShotgun
@Doomed

Here is your video card:


Since your card has S-Video (the little circle connector above the two DVI connections), as well as two DVI connections, per this guide, you should be good to go!

@Soundx98
Thanks for the guide Soundx98! I was actually interested in adding some bling to my case! This just might be my ticket!
tennvols_69
nice lil how to man. ill say for those of you just getting into using lcds in your case the best ones to start out with is ones with s-video it simplifies things alot. and if you do have to use vga or composite signal i strongly recommend you do some reading on it cause it can become a pita.
soundx98
If the card uses a VIVO (VideoInVideoOut) connector an adaptor will/should be included,. Usually Video Out RCA, Video IN RCA, and S-video connector at least. The outputs are often yellow in color.

Older Video Cards with S-Video output often only support S-Video Out or standard monitor, not both at the same time. You may have to "futz" with DVI connections as well. On my Radeon cards DVI-A will work but DVI-B will not. And no you can't stretch three screens across/wide either.

I've seen decent screens on eBay for less than a hundred. It's a pretty popular category in my business so I'm sure many screens will turn up. Since I have my cases slightly sideways (cause it looks so good thru the window). I often watch TV on it but most of the time I use it as an extended desktop.
Hymn
soundx, that is by far the most impressive thing ive seen in a long long time.

5 stars.
soundx98
gorsh - BLUSH - hehehe

Are you easy to please! smile.gif

Just a quicky, was gonna do something on the Matrix Orbital and LIS character displays and then get into some config files for use with the MBM5 stuff.

Now this was a lot of work, so glad so many helped. http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread...98&page=1&pp=15
THunDA
Awsome job !!

If I only lived close to you ... You'd be hooking up my car big time..hehe smile.gif
VenuS
Fantastic !
atlante
Great Job!

Do you know if that is possible with TFT monitors from old Laptops, got some spare ones!

Thanks
p0tter
I like!
soundx98
Thanks man.

Do you know if that is possible with TFT monitors from old Laptops, got some spare ones!

possible yes, easy NO.
It's usually a lot of work to get the Video input correct, relocating Power Supply for the CCFLs that backlight the screen (if you don't break the CCFLs and can get them to work), many of the old laptop screens just don't have the brightness or numerous dead pixels.

The guide was designed when using a small LCD from a headrest (plug and play if you would) but you can but a brand new 15" LCD for less than a $150 and mount it in the non-windowed side for wow factor.
uNTaMeD-4o8
how would u get power to the monitor?? is ther a pic u can show me?? i know u have to get it frm the psu but just wanna see pics and examples
soundx98
It's so simple and easy you will laugh uNTaMeD-[4o8]

I took a spare 4-pin molex and cot off the end about 5" from the plug.
The yellow wire is 12v and the black is ground.
Automotive LCDs will have a red for 12v (connect to yellow) and a black for GND (Connect to black). If there is a wire on the LCD power plug it's usually yellow or orange and is constant ON (connect it to the yellow on the molex lead as well).
ReelFiles
Good tutorial ... Modifications and Cooling Stickie in the making.

I was considering the before mentioned 15" LCD mounted in the side panel mod, with a cam installed on the back of it, so I can switch over to see the inside of the case. Some high tech refrigerators are using the same concept to preview their contents.
Anospa
This will definitly be something I plan to do. Put a small LCD somewhere for AIM and small stuff for when I'm gaming or working on projects/papers/school stuff.
red930
(Anospa)
This will definitly be something I plan to do. Put a small LCD somewhere for AIM and small stuff for when I'm gaming or working on projects/papers/school stuff.


Be sure to get a high quality one then. Mine is okay for movies (especially animated stuff like Ice Age) and it's alright for MBM5, but anything more detailed than that is unreadable. I was really hoping to use it for media player during games, but no go. Might have to upgrade sometime if I see a good deal. smile.gif

Edit: The one I'm using is shown in the first pic up top.
Anospa
(technodanvan)
Be sure to get a high quality one then. Mine is okay for movies (especially animated stuff like Ice Age) and it's alright for MBM5, but anything more detailed than that is unreadable. I was really hoping to use it for media player during games, but no go. Might have to upgrade sometime if I see a good deal. smile.gif

Edit: The one I'm using is shown in the first pic up top.


Damn, well, how "high quality," are we looking at? This will probably be one of the last things I do anyways, still gotta work on a monitor and then watercooling, etc.
soundx98
A 5" to 7" screen is pretty small for AIM unless you have superman eyesight.

Some of the members have issues with eyesight due to age, and some have issues due to nightly partying.
TIP: Sleeping under Flower Power blankets may not make your vision better but will keep your tool from shriveling up biggrin.gif
red930
(Anospa)
Damn, well, how "high quality," are we looking at? This will probably be one of the last things I do anyways, still gotta work on a monitor and then watercooling, etc.


Well, it doesn't matter so much what the resolution is, though it'd help if it had a common native resolution so you could just set your graphics card to that. Then look at how sharp the monitor is, go to a car audio place and check some out. If they can used as displays for car stereos, it's probably more than detailed enough for what you're doing.

(soundx98)
TIP: Sleeping under Flower Power blankets may not make your vision better but will keep your tool from shriveling up biggrin.gif


More than you know. wink.gif

I'm regetting posting that pic...
petercintn
(soundx98)
TIP: Sleeping under Flower Power blankets may not make your vision better but will keep your tool from shriveling up biggrin.gif


Lol, if your like me, that's only because the magnifing glasses on my face enlarge things.
OsamaBinAthlon+
soundx98,
I have an old monitor from my ps2

would I be able to take that beauty apart and use it?
you say bit-tech has a good article but can you link to it?
soundx98
Yes you definately can use it but it's not as easy.
Give me a day or two to search around for some links.
I'm in the middle of 3 projects and would like to do at least one of them well biggrin.gif
OsamaBinAthlon+
Thanks
rocketmanj210
I'v been debating on doing something like this once I get my rig all finalized. It would be nice to not have to drag my lcd monitor around when I have to carry my case everywhere.

Thanks for the info and the pics looked great.
soundx98
I wish I could be more specific on some of this.
One of the reasons I use the Automotive Screens is it's so dard easy to grap 12v to power the screen up.
Laptop screens and PS screens can require a lot of work to find the correct parts of the Power Supply to connect (most laptop screens use 5v instead of 12v), and then you'll still need to find some way to intervace the Video input.

Here are some links that may prove useful to you.
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linu...y/l-playscreen/

http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2004/07/07/psone_lcd/1.html

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/03/2...ors_work/1.html

http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2003/12/23...e_dremel/1.html

Google "Powering your LCD" will brink up a kazillion links.
It may be more cost effective to build your own LCD Power Supply than trying to figue out an old latop or PS. I think Maxim and TI are the big players in the ICs for this project.
nightsider
nice tut bump just wish there was a guide for using a old laptop lcd instead since i have an old dell laptop lying round here
Capo
Very nice, thanks for making this!
dr_bowtie
QUOTE (nightsider @ Jul 9 2008, 08:48 AM) *
nice tut bump just wish there was a guide for using a old laptop lcd instead since i have an old dell laptop lying round here



MaximumPC's July article had a issue on using Laptop screens as real estate...and ZoneOS wll do it over the network...may look into that...not really the same as modding the panel into the case but it makes it still usable...
nightsider
QUOTE (dr_bowtie @ Jul 10 2008, 06:09 AM) *
MaximumPC's July article had a issue on using Laptop screens as real estate...and ZoneOS wll do it over the network...may look into that...not really the same as modding the panel into the case but it makes it still usable...

i dont supose you have the links do you?
crazy8s846
I was wondering how hard would it be to use the screen out of a portable dvd player. Ive got one that wont play a dvd any more but the screen still works. Thanks for any info.
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