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General Septem
Thank you very much TGM! :nod:

About the CPU fan, I think it's working just fine. It just feels like it should be running faster, but as I said the HS is relatively cool to the touch, and according to aida32 it's running at about 41 C. I'm still going to upgrade someday, to close that aforementioned gap. smile.gif

That's good to know about the compressor bit. My case isn't actually as dusty as it looks (bad lighting in the pic) but in a month it will be. tongue.gif

18" is really long for what I need, do they come any shorter? Do you have any suggestions for what to do with the excess?

Last but not least, would this product do what I need as far as holding the HS on? If so, I am going to order it probably soon. Will I be alright for a few days? In the mean time, would I keep that card cooler with the case open or closed?
Boosted420a
(UncleDavid218)
I know that water cooling is of the Thermaltake line, but which model is it exactly?

Edit: and with the fan blowing over the rad on the inside, is there any exhaust flow to speak of?

The model is in my sig. There might some some kind of number, but i dont know what it is.

Yes, plenty of exhaust. The fan blows a faily decent amount of air out of the case, and u can't see it, but there is a 92mm fan at the bottom of the psu which helps as well. I don't have any problems with temps at all.
TheGeekMistress
(General Septem)
Thank you very much TGM! :nod:

About the CPU fan, I think it's working just fine. It just feels like it should be running faster, but as I said the HS is relatively cool to the touch, and according to aida32 it's running at about 41 C. I'm still going to upgrade someday, to close that aforementioned gap. smile.gif

That's good to know about the compressor bit. My case isn't actually as dusty as it looks (bad lighting in the pic) but in a month it will be. tongue.gif

18" is really long for what I need, do they come any shorter? Do you have any suggestions for what to do with the excess?

Last but not least, would this product do what I need as far as holding the HS on? If so, I am going to order it probably soon. Will I be alright for a few days? In the mean time, would I keep that card cooler with the case open or closed?
well, lemme adress the thermal adhesive first.... i would not suggest using the Artic Silver Adhesive as it has silver in it and will conduct electricty. i've seen too many people with brand new dead AGP cards once they use AS Adhesive b/c it ran down over the DRAM connects. there is a way to use the AS Adhesive by taping enerything over, but thats a pain. i suggest using Artic Alumina Adhesive which is not electrically conductive.

no for the pata data cables, SVC.com has a huge selection of single connector cable from 10" to 18".

TGM
General Septem
Thanks, you really saved me a lot :nod:
red930
(General Septem)
according to aida32 it's running at about 41 C.

Be Aware:
Aida32 hasn't been updated in over two years. Tomas Miklos sold the code to Lavalys which renamed it EVEREST.

Having worked with the author for years during development, I can tell you that I wouldn't trust that older version at all. While it's possible your temp is accurate I would try another monitoring program.

The latest "free" version of EVEREST is available for download with many features turned off but the purchase price is very low.
General Septem
I just switched to EVEREST and it looks as though my CPU is currently around 30 C, and occasionally dropping to 29 and even 28. Mind you, I did add two intake fans since I last checked aida32. Currently I've got four intake fans in the front of the case and two in the back. Two of the intakes are just sitting in empty bays, though, not really mounted to anything. My GPU is of concern, though, 51 C currently. It's just hovering there. Also, is it normal for the North Bridge to idle (basically) at 45 C?
nitemareglitch
The old saying of measure twice, cut once comes to mind when I think of my situation.

First I had a really pretty Lian Li case, that was WAY too tiny for me.





After being frustrated, I decided to go and get one of these.



Now the inside is much nicer.

red930
(Nitemareglitch)
The old saying of measure twice, cut once comes to mind when I think of my situation.

First I had a really pretty Lian Li case, that was WAY too tiny for me.


Yeah those 1000's are pretty small for watercooling, had to swap mine for the 2000 which works beautifully.
CopyNinjaKakash
wow, can i have the old lian li?
SoyoJoe
My little computer.

Like my ghetto pwmic cooling setup? biggrin.gif


Majin Vegita
lol def not little or ghetto. i'll be attaching new pics momentarilly, and nightmareglitch wow your cmstacker looks different inside than mine..... ????

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/nis...er/100_0053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/nis...er/100_0038.jpg
General Septem
I did a bit of screwing around with the wires and HDD placement:



I also added fans:

thespin_merged
(Delirious)
My little computer.[/IMG]
Yo, Delirious, nice job! What case do you have pictured ?
Mott13
Shots of my new ultra-d in my old case:)











red930
Nice setups everyone! smile.gif

I'm in the process of mapping the CM Stacker in AutoCAD. Going to do some major rework which will include the following:

- slight alterations of the motherboard mounting plate to include vents for cooling
- removal of the upper PSU cage (getting a PCP&C 1KW to replace the 2 PSUs I have now)
- chassis reinforcement to compensate for removal of the upper PSU cage
- create easy access channels to hide wiring
- modification of the right side access panel for a 140mm fan
- implementation of directed laser LED lights
- implementation of two BIXIII radiators
- mounting points for two pumps

And maybe more.

btw, the reason I have not posted any pics to my current system is due to the fact that I have a Asus A8N-SLI Premium installed. It sucks, IMO. I will post pics once I have a DFI SLI-DR Expert installed to keep with the spirit of this forum. smile.gif
TheGeekMistress
(Majin Vegita)
lol def not little or ghetto. i'll be attaching new pics momentarilly, and nightmareglitch wow your cmstacker looks different inside than mine..... ????

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/nis...er/100_0053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/nis...er/100_0038.jpg

you've got the very first design Stacker case. I've got the same design as yours. i bought it knowing i could mount dual power supplies for maybe some Pelt adventures down the road.

Nitemareglitch's Stacker allows for only one psu, at the bottom, and the improvements were the extra top rear 120 fan and possibly a 92 top blow hole and side fan i believe increased to a 120.

the next gen redesign of our beloved CM Stacker case is the CM Stacker 830

on mine, i took out all the thin foam strips from the front bay covers and from the side. i get about a 75% increase in flowrate from my fans now.

i've got my BIX Dual with 4 120's mounted to it (push/pull design) in the front with the pump on the bottom grill of the case so it cools my res/pump with two 80's on the back bottom for exhaust. there's a total of 3x120, 1x80 1xCrossflow intake fans, 1x120, 3x80 exhuast, plus one PSU.

i just upgraded to this H20 system and i'm having a bit of modding to do with it yet, and i just got the LP-UT NF3 250GB and the 1st of next month i'll be ordering the A64 Mobile 4000+..... should be a flyin fast system.

TGM
TheGeekMistress
(Delirious)
My little computer.

Like my ghetto pwmic cooling setup? biggrin.gif


w0w, flat ribin cables. haven't seen those in years! :eek2:

you've got a really nice and clean looking case smile.gif ...good job

TGM
TheGeekMistress
(General Septem)
I did a bit of screwing around with the wires and HDD placement:



I also added fans:


GS,
try routing your electrical and data cable around the backside of the hard drive cages. and from the PSU to where the cables need to come out at to connect things up, try routing then behind the motherboard, in bewteen the mobo tray mount and the back side case door.

looking better tho smile.gif ...did you order any of those cables i linked you to yet?

TGM
TheGeekMistress
(AceGoober)
Nice setups everyone! smile.gif

I'm in the process of mapping the CM Stacker in AutoCAD. Going to do some major rework which will include the following:

- slight alterations of the motherboard mounting plate to include vents for cooling
- removal of the upper PSU cage (getting a PCP&C 1KW to replace the 2 PSUs I have now)
- chassis reinforcement to compensate for removal of the upper PSU cage
- create easy access channels to hide wiring
- modification of the right side access panel for a 140mm fan
- implementation of directed laser LED lights
- implementation of two BIXIII radiators
- mounting points for two pumps

And maybe more.

btw, the reason I have not posted any pics to my current system is due to the fact that I have a Asus A8N-SLI Premium installed. It sucks, IMO. I will post pics once I have a DFI SLI-DR Expert installed to keep with the spirit of this forum. smile.gif

heh, nice thoughts on the mods AceGoober, i was actually considering drilling out the rivets on my PSU cage, but i hadn't studied it enough yet. i am concerned it's a structural piece. but it would be nice to run two BIX Dual rads; one for potentially, in the future, for dual vid cards and the chipset, then the other for a pelted cpu (even could run a triple BIX up top for that pelt).

i've also been wanting to mod the side door to fit a bigger fan than the 80mm in there. not for more air pushing into the case, but to disrupt the hot air hanging around the vid card, memory, and mosfets. i was figuring on using one of those 80 to 120 adapters for pulling the air in and modding it so the sides have about figer wide slits in them as this is mainly going to be a recirulator to create turbulance around the hot spots. i was even thinking of cutting and 80mm hole in the side grill anf placing one of those tubes that look like they belong on a sub woofer box so it has more outside air intake, but i don't think that necessary as i just want a 120 so it's wide enough to create an airflow path onto the hot spots for turbulance, then the 120's i've got for intakes and exhaust will do the rest. my only concern is will it be in the way of my water cooling tubing, i already know it'll fit with ease in front of the agp card.

ahhh, mods, mods, and more mods. smile.gif

TGM
Majin Vegita
(TheGeekMistress)
you've got the very first design Stacker case. I've got the same design as yours. i bought it knowing i could mount dual power supplies for maybe some Pelt adventures down the road.

the next gen redesign of our beloved CM Stacker case is the CM Stacker 830


i just upgraded to this H20 system and i'm having a bit of modding to do with it yet, and i just got the LP-UT NF3 250GB and the 1st of next month i'll be ordering the A64 Mobile 4000+..... should be a flyin fast system.

TGM



i completely forgot about the newer versions of our case. duh, i've been holding off on re-installing my h2O cooling due to the failure of 3 TT Bigwater pumps, i've since upgraded from a TT XaserIII Skull case to the CMSTK, and don't dare use another TT pump, so i also purchased a Swiftech res and i'm patiently waiting on a mcp350. Just today i ordered 3 sets of CM Aurora CCFL Tubes off ebay (only place i could find them 20$ total for the 3) and a CM Chipset cooler (the cool one w/ the led 40mm fan :-) ). besides that, i'm running the stock rear 120 blowing through my rad to the 2nd 100cfm mad dog 120 on my rad, 2x80mm CM silent fans in lower PSU spot, Front 120mm for hdd Cooling, the 40mm active cooler i modded onto my cm northbridge cooler (affixed to my SB), the stock cm top 80mm blowhole fan, and the rest that i haven't mentioned that's in my sig.

I'm also procrastinating on a pci USB 2.0 hub w/ 2 internal usb pinouts so i can hook up 2 sets of my front 3 CMstk power panel, the side window, and my crossflow.....

kinda pissed can't buy mobile xp cpu's retail/pricewatch anylonger.... stuck paying fullprice on ebay... 100$ for a 2600m :tooth:

p.s i've been playing w/ the wire routing even more, i've hidden 80% of the wires now, just wish i could get up the balls to sleeve my powerstream
red930
Lets find the common ground.

I need to know the average ambient temp, case choice and component choice) to design (through AutoCAD, of course), the optimal configuration which would suit you best.

You call yourself a Geek Mistress, but have you ever considered yourself a equasitional deliberator? wink.gif
(TheGeekMistress)
heh, nice thoughts on the mods AceGoober, i was actually considering drilling out the rivets on my PSU cage, but i hadn't studied it enough yet. i am concerned it's a structural piece. but it would be nice to run two BIX Dual rads; one for potentially, in the future, for dual vid cards and the chipset, then the other for a pelted cpu (even could run a triple BIX up top for that pelt).

i've also been wanting to mod the side door to fit a bigger fan than the 80mm in there. not for more air pushing into the case, but to disrupt the hot air hanging around the vid card, memory, and mosfets. i was figuring on using one of those 80 to 120 adapters for pulling the air in and modding it so the sides have about figer wide slits in them as this is mainly going to be a recirulator to create turbulance around the hot spots. i was even thinking of cutting and 80mm hole in the side grill anf placing one of those tubes that look like they belong on a sub woofer box so it has more outside air intake, but i don't think that necessary as i just want a 120 so it's wide enough to create an airflow path onto the hot spots for turbulance, then the 120's i've got for intakes and exhaust will do the rest. my only concern is will it be in the way of my water cooling tubing, i already know it'll fit with ease in front of the agp card.

ahhh, mods, mods, and more mods. smile.gif

TGM
TheGeekMistress
(AceGoober)
Lets find the common ground.

I need to know the average ambient temp, case choice and component choice) to design (through AutoCAD, of course), the optimal configuration which would suit you best.

You call yourself a Geek Mistress, but have you ever considered yourself a equasitional deliberator? wink.gif

huh? do you mean inquisitional deliberator?

and before i took apart my case for my new system and water, the case temp was around 27C at a room temp of 71F ....but that temp was without all the new fanage i'm going to have now. that was with just the stock fanage that came with the case, plus i had that air cooled pelt so my case ran warm.

TGM
Majin Vegita
(AceGoober)
Nice setups everyone! smile.gif

I'm in the process of mapping the CM Stacker in AutoCAD. Going to do some major rework which will include the following:

- slight alterations of the motherboard mounting plate to include vents for cooling
- removal of the upper PSU cage (getting a PCP&C 1KW to replace the 2 PSUs I have now)
- chassis reinforcement to compensate for removal of the upper PSU cage
- create easy access channels to hide wiring
- modification of the right side access panel for a 140mm fan
- implementation of directed laser LED lights
- implementation of two BIXIII radiators
- mounting points for two pumps

And maybe more.


the first or second gen?

and will you be producing these also? i might (no would definately) be interested in anything that's easily swappable (mbtray, lower vent, ect...)

OOOOOOHHHHHhhhh mr 1KW fancy schmancy!!! WooT WooT! J/K i'm just jealous, NEED MORE POWWARRR!!!!

Update!!

Night Shot!!!
TheGeekMistress
yes, he has the first gen, same as mine

and yah 1000watt psu, i've only got a 650watt tongue.gif lol

TGM
red930
hehe smile.gif

I made said statement based only upon other members posts for which you have responded to.

Basically, I am just seeing what your results, and responses are, from your examination of theirs, and yours, particular situation.

I honestly want to know the various variables to your climate for which the equipment being run is subjected to.

Don't worry, I am viewing everyone's response to their particular situation.

In no way is it meant to single you out.

Please forgive me if it comes across that way.
(TheGeekMistress)
huh? do you mean inquisitional deliberator?

and before i took apart my case for my new system and water, the case temp was around 27C at a room temp of 71F ....but that temp was without all the new fanage i'm going to have now. that was with just the stock fanage that came with the case, plus i had that air cooled pelt so my case ran warm.

TGM
red930
Wanted to make sure that I have the most power for the current hardware. biggrin.gif

Hopefully, it will last me awhile.
(TheGeekMistress)
yes, he has the first gen, same as mine

and yah 1000watt psu, i've only got a 650watt tongue.gif lol

TGM
General Septem
(TheGeekMistress)
GS,
try routing your electrical and data cable around the backside of the hard drive cages. and from the PSU to where the cables need to come out at to connect things up, try routing then behind the motherboard, in bewteen the mobo tray mount and the back side case door.

looking better tho smile.gif ...did you order any of those cables i linked you to yet?

TGM

Thanks :nod:

I haven't yet, but I do have a shopping cart ready to be ordered, as soon as I get a job, and I've been holding off on getting a job because I'm applying for a scholorship at a music school and needed the extra time to play guitar. But the audition is on Friday and I've got a great job in mind (and I've got connections too), so it won't be long now. :nod:

That'll be when I unleash my economical power on society, muahahahaha biggrin.gif
owcraftsman
? Delirious ?

Great pics luv that case! :cool:

Whatzzz the make and model case in the pics?? :dog:
SoyoJoe
(owcraftsman)
? Delirious ?

Great pics luv that case! :cool:

Whatzzz the make and model case in the pics?? :dog:



Thx, its a lian-li pc7077 that i moded

Dont know why i used a ribbon cable when i have some really nice round ide ones. Maybe cause theyre not as bulky?
cjoe7
Here is my new Stacker 830 case. Check it out.












I had some problems fitting in the top 12cm radiator. The fan bracket had to be modded so that the radiator could be placed flush against the fan. Moreover, my OCZ 600W Powerstream PSU is too long and can not be screwed to the case -- it hangs out the rear of the case by ~1.5". The case holds 9HDs - 4 in the 4-in-3 frame, 4 in the Back Plane and 1 in the I-Star removable tray. This machine is watercooled by an Asetek Waterchill 3/8" system - CPU, Video, Chipset, dual 120 radiators, Extreme pump and reservoir. There are 3x12cm fans and 1x8cm fan in the case.

What do you guys think.

cjoe
VectorTensor
Very very nice rig cjoe7. Love that case :nod:
TheGeekMistress
yup cjoe7,
thats a 5w33t case, nice water cooling too. i've got the orignal CM Stacker with a new Asetek 03-L-1249 kit going in it. smile.gif

TGM
jacobmervine
well Blooz1 wanted to see pics of my case i figured i might as well post them here they are










heres what it looks like at night tongue.gif



any who if you want any more pics ill be glad to take them for you
UncleDavid218
No offense but that is, in my opinion, the ugliet case I've ever seen.

If you like it that's all that matters.
cjoe7
(TheGeekMistress)
yup cjoe7,
thats a 5w33t case, nice water cooling too. i've got the orignal CM Stacker with a new Asetek 03-L-1249 kit going in it. smile.gif

TGM


Thanks....

That Asetek kit is pretty decent but have you considered going with separates instead? or maybe Aquacomputer components? For the price (>$300), you could buy better components.

If I were to redo my system, I wouldn't pick the Asetek. Asetek has quality control problems with the Xtreme pump controllers. Although 3/8" ID has pretty nice water flow, its a pain to work with.

I'm considering going back to 6mm or 8mm low flow systems. My older Koolance Exos isn't as powerful as the Asetek but it does a very good job. I'm very intrigued by the Aquacomputer products because they seem to be very high quality. Check out Sharka Corporation's stuff.

cjoe
cjoe7
(VectorTensor)
Very very nice rig cjoe7. Love that case :nod:


Thanks Vector.
jacobmervine
yea iv heard that alot but it looks alot different in person plus i love it tongue.gif :shake:
ComeUpon
I've always wondered how the heck the door on that thing opens. Now I know. Very interesting concept.
TheGeekMistress
(cjoe7)
Thanks....

That Asetek kit is pretty decent but have you considered going with separates instead? or maybe Aquacomputer components? For the price (>$300), you could buy better components.

If I were to redo my system, I wouldn't pick the Asetek. Asetek has quality control problems with the Xtreme pump controllers. Although 3/8" ID has pretty nice water flow, its a pain to work with.

I'm considering going back to 6mm or 8mm low flow systems. My older Koolance Exos isn't as powerful as the Asetek but it does a very good job. I'm very intrigued by the Aquacomputer products because they seem to be very high quality. Check out Sharka Corporation's stuff.

cjoe

yes, but for me, i'd still buy the asetek extreme kit but with only the cpu block. then i'd grab a DD gpu block and some low profile chipset block. the "one size fits all" generic gpu and chipset blocks were a disappointment. in fact i have to mod my X800 to have the gpu block sit flush to the gpu surface and i have to replace the chipset fittings for elbows b/c of that 45 degree angle of the gpu block fittings. *sighs*

but, it was a simple all in one kit and the copper base's are of very high quality. i just wish they hadn't gone with the generic gpu and chipset waterblocks. but that's what you get when you buy a "all in one" kit.

but, i'll run it the way it is for now, with my mods, and then when i upgrade to the AM2 socket 333mhz bus DDR2-667 mem, and dual PCIe vid cards; i'll buy new gpu waterblocks, new chipset block, and the OCZ phase change for my cpu (which is actually cheaper then my water cooling kit, heh).

TGM
ooztuncer
I like the case, looks volkswagen beetles from 70's. Can I ask how much did you pay for it, and did you mod anything on it?
red930
I really hate to intrude on this thread....

However, there is a established thread to post your case pics...

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread...&highlight=Case
Blooz1_merged
Sorry Ace,

I did ask him to post some pics in the case thread, but I didn't provide a link to it.

Thanks for the pics, jacobmervine! That's the first one of those I've actually seen "built", not just manufacturer-provided pics.

Sorry, but my opinion hasn't changed - it still looks like a NOSE!
Milkshake_merged
Ya sorry not my taste. Haha it does look like a nose.
SuppA-SnipA_merged
holy crap thats... crap
i give you the worst case ever award, have fun, and its too big
cjoe7
(TheGeekMistress)
yes, but for me, i'd still buy the asetek extreme kit but with only the cpu block. then i'd grab a DD gpu block and some low profile chipset block. the "one size fits all" generic gpu and chipset blocks were a disappointment. in fact i have to mod my X800 to have the gpu block sit flush to the gpu surface and i have to replace the chipset fittings for elbows b/c of that 45 degree angle of the gpu block fittings. *sighs*

but, it was a simple all in one kit and the copper base's are of very high quality. i just wish they hadn't gone with the generic gpu and chipset waterblocks. but that's what you get when you buy a "all in one" kit.

but, i'll run it the way it is for now, with my mods, and then when i upgrade to the AM2 socket 333mhz bus DDR2-667 mem, and dual PCIe vid cards; i'll buy new gpu waterblocks, new chipset block, and the OCZ phase change for my cpu (which is actually cheaper then my water cooling kit, heh).

TGM


Sorry. I misunderstood. I thought you were going to put a new Asetek kit in your Stacker. I didn't realize that you had purchased it already.

I totally agree with your sentiments concerning the generic waterblocks. I tried several other waterblocks and wasn't very happy with their performance either.

Yeah, I thought about phase change and waterchillers. I even purchased a waterchiller system but decided not to install it due to condensation issues. The thought insulating the tubing/motherboard and removing dielectric grease from the CPU socket later totally put me off.

The advantage of my current WC system allows it to run 24/7 if need be. I don't think running Phase Change or chillers 24/7 is safe or feasable yet. MTBF for these enthusiast parts are probably not comparable to true heavy duty commercial systems.

cjoe
cjoe7
(AceGoober)
I really hate to intrude on this thread....

However, there is a established thread to post your case pics...

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread...&highlight=Case


I'm a bit confused. Isn't that link is pointing to this same very thread?

cjoe
cjoe7
Does anyone have any extra DFI UV Yellow Sata cables? I'm looking for 3-6 cables. If you're not using them, would you consider selling them to me for a reasonable price.

Thanks..

cjoe
TheGeekMistress
(jacobmervine)
well Blooz1 wanted to see pics of my case i figured i might as well post them here they are
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any who if you want any more pics ill be glad to take them for you

yah jacob, let us see the inside sorting of wires and cables that you've done.

the nose knows no blows wink.gif looks like a nose to me too, hehe

TGM
General Septem
It looks a lot like a nose. tongue.gif

In fact, it's giving me an idea :shake:

Anyway, I think it looks awesome, but then again I'm the kind of person who'd make a case look like a nose on purpose - it's my style. :sweat:

TGM: You said something about routing wires behind the motherboard tray, but I don't seem to have a lot of room back there. Is it still enough do you think? How much space behind the motherboard do you need?
TheGeekMistress
(General Septem)
It looks a lot like a nose. tongue.gif

In fact, it's giving me an idea :shake:

Anyway, I think it looks awesome, but then again I'm the kind of person who'd make a case look like a nose on purpose - it's my style. :sweat:

TGM: You said something about routing wires behind the motherboard tray, but I don't seem to have a lot of room back there. Is it still enough do you think? How much space behind the motherboard do you need?

yes, there's enough room. how i do it is with duct tape. i'll flatten the wires out as it goes over the bend of the mobo tray and then tape them down to the back of the mobo tray also. i've done this on 6 cases now, all the way down from a cheapy $20 case all the way up to an expensive $240 case. also, i use the grey duct tape b/c it blends into the shett metal best.

TGM
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