Anyone reccomend me a fairly big micro atx case with water cooling built in or the facilites to have it already, so i haven't gotta chop much and preferably with a window?

Anyone?

This is the only thing that I found...Being that it's a micro ATX case with tons of tubing inside it, you're going to have absolutely no room to work with and I don't even think your GTS would fit into it. I highly recommend that you look towards mid-towers or full-towers if you want to do watercooling.

Why does it need to be watercooled? Air cooling is good enough, and watercooling will seriously limit your choices.

I'd like watercooling so i can over clock more, and fair enough iKillSteal, mid, or whatever size

A decent mid-tower will ease your life a lot! One word of advice, don't get watercooling! You're 13, you probably don't have 300$ or pounds burning a hole in your pants, to spend on a decent watercooling system. I'd say buy a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme air cooler, and call it a day. Those things cool like mad, and they're a lot cheaper than watercooling.

You'll still get one hell of a nice OC with a U120E plus it'll save you tons of cash and headaches.

yeah air cooling doesn't leak and ruin you components! thats what happened to me like 4 days ago with my water cooling setup! dont do it, get the thermalright it's cheaper and doesn't leak

all ATX cases support mATX boards... that's a way of getting a large case for a mATX board...

I'd go with an Antec 900 and a good heatsink (i.e. Ultra-120 Extreme). Don't waste your time with WC unless you're going to spend serious money on it ($250 or more).

Even if you've got the money, I still wouldn't suggest spending it unless you're absolutely positive that you know what you're getting yourself into. No offense, but it sounds like you don't have much experience since you're asking for a big micro-ATX case...

Sorry, i have an ATX board, not micro, so a fairly large case that supports ATX is what i meant

I have the money for the watercooling and stuff as it was my birthday today...

Anyone reccomend me just a fairly large case then to add some good air cooling too?

I was thinking of an Antec 900 / NZXT Zero / Gigabyte Poseidon

The Thermaltake Armor is a very nice case too. It's very roomy. I love mine.

Well if you're looking for a big case for either water or air cooling, both the Armor and CM Stacker are good choices. Note that I'm referring to the original Armor and the original Stacker, not their subsequent... mutations. Out of all of the cases I've used, I like the Stacker the best. Out of the three cases you listed, the Antec 900 will give you the best cooling and would definitely be my pick.

I would suggest the Thermaltake Armor or the Cosmos 1000, they are both pretty damn good cases

I have the armor setup as a water cooling setup and the cosmos 1000 for air cooling with the Thermalright Ultra 120

The Cosmos is just like the 900 and Antec P180. They all look big but are cramped on the inside. Honestly, I think the idea of the Cosmos is good, just like the P180, but its implementation is poor... Just my opinion, I'm not knocking your choices.

Im just putting out some ideas, it seems pretty good sized to me, the only thing is wire management is a b**ch in there...

Looks like a fairly standard mid tower to me. :shrug:

its got a pretty decent amount of space in there...

Does that case have more room then a cool master stacker I was looking at on of those the internet at while back. Would have got it but i got the cool master stacker for ten dollars lol. then gave it a paint job and a window mod ( work in Progress)

Not even close!

the Cosmos measures 25*24*10.5...there's alot more room then it looks like BUT there are still some bigger cases out there. I think the LianLi has alot more rooom.

I vote for the Thermaltake Armor as well the case is a monster.

that's the nxt case i'm going to buy

Outer dimensions are hardly indicative of the space you have to work with inside. Especially when you take those ridiculous handles into account. I've owned a Stacker and an Armor and have worked with the Cosmos and it isn't nearly as big on the inside as the other two cases. Frankly, I think there's a lot less room in there than it looks like. I'm not saying it's a bad case, just that it's not as big as it appears.

Which Lian Li are you referring to? There are dozens of Lian Li cases, both smaller and larger.

this one. it looks like its huge..... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811112062

Ah yes. That is definitely one nice case. When I was looking at cases last year, that's actually one of the ones on my wishlist. I'd have a hard time spending that much on a case though.

That's the beef I have with most Lian Li cases actually... They're nice cases, but not worth the extra cash for me.

yeah it is pretty pricey..then again thats almost as much as i spent on my cosmos..lol..but i wont do it again