http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817148025


I plan on running...


DFI Ultra D
1 GB OCZ Ram
4 SATA Hard Drives
X800XL
DAngerden Pump
Floppy
2 CD Drives
3 120 MM fans
2 90 MM Fans
Phase Change Unit

I'd stay away from the aspire and go with Ocz,Antec or Pc power & cooling.

do you believe 600 watts is enough?

i think it should be more than enough.although i dont have any clues on water cooling and how much power it requires,pump,ect.

hopefuly someone will see this and will be able to give you more suggestions or help on how much power you really need for your set up

Why in the world would you invest a lot of money into a system but choose a POS Aspire PSU to power it?!?!?!?

hey when i 1st got into computers i thought those aspires/cheap 60-70$ psu were cool & looked great.but since joing this forum now i know better.
be easy on the guy

I run a setup similar to that with this psu. I have 6 120mm fans and 1 80mm fan.

ehhh ya, Good setups == Greaty Power supply.
Aspire != Great power supply.

Yes, 600w would be plenty to power that system, but not that Aspire PSU. Yes, I know it looks cool, but when it comes to PSU's you will learn that looks is the last thing you want to worry about. I would recommend something like the OCZ Powerstream 520w or 600w. The best option of course would be a PC Power & Cooling PSU if you can afford it.

go Tagan

yes ive been looking at OCZ they are extremely expensive... i was wondering if this 550 w power supply will do me good.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817103931

if not i need suggestions under $130 dollars pleaase.
thanks OCC.

The powerstream 520 was 120 bucks from monarch when i got mine, and it will probably be the best purchase you make for your computer. Go with powerstream series or pcp&c 510 sli if you care about your pc

lol if you think the OCZ psu's are expensive you should go price the PC Power & Cooling psu's. You need one under $130 eh? Well I got my OCZ Powerstream 520w for $120. ......That antec psu you linked to isn't bad and is definately better than the Aspire one, but the OCZ one I mentioned is better.

powerstream520

Looks like they come with blue leds now o.O. I wanted to change my green ones to red but wouldnt wanna void my great powerswap warranty. Seriously though, thatr psu is leaps and bounds ahead of the ones you posted and not much more expensive.

for around the same price you could get an ANTEC and have peace of mind

yeah but im not gonna pay $120 more for a 40 watt change. right now i have a thermaltake pure power 480 W PSU and it has been good to me.

total peak wattage isn't everything. For example that 520w ocz I mentioned will kick the pants off of that 600w Aspire.

LMAO..

ignorance is bliss..

Hey yeah your right.. who's ignorant? i need an extra 300 W to run that phase change... I dont need amazing 12 volt rails or any of that other crap. i just need the 300 watts. so since you know everything holo dream, tell me what should i do?

What do you mean you need an extra 300w to run phase? Who told you that? besides a PS unit will have it's own power source built in. It won't pull power from your systems psu. Also, you don't need amazing 12v rails or any of that other crap? Do you even know how important a good 12v rail is on an A64 system especially one heavily OCed under phase?

Lol he has a TT PSU, lol.

that thermaltake psu has wonderful reviews all over the board. power consumption has not been an issue till the phase change came along. its rated a 220W .. apparantly i come hee for help but i get bashed. nevermind i dont need your help. i will post once my rig is built.

TT psu does not have amazing rails but it works perfectly fine. the only mistake i have made has been this abit board its too restricted, and that why im changing euipqment.

the phase change i have does not contain its own power unit it has a cable they connects to the ATX psu.

I have the same power supply for 2 years and still running strong, prime95 stable/ 24hr

All I have to say I guess TT flukes out when you OC', but when running on stock, stable as heck.

Ok Your the one looking stupid here, the PSU the the most improtant part of the system yet you dont even want to listen to peopel with far more PSU experence than you giving you advice that a PSU's peak wattage isnt everything. I have two identically rated PSUs (350w & 16A 12v), one Antec, one "turbolink" the Antec has QUALITY parts and will maintain a decent voltage even with an A64 based rig that's not OCed and doesnt have a nice video card, yet the turbolink cant even run a skt 478 celeron system w/ 4mb video card and keep ti over 11.7v...

So you want to get an Aspire (the turbolink came in an Aspire case) that is 600w that wont be able to output the power than the 520w even if the 520w OCZ PSU is having a bad day...(which I am unaware of PSUs having good or bad days but yeah anyway)

You have really got to learn that There's more to any device than one rating, take Intel vs AMD, sure a 3.0 P4 runs @ 3ghz and a 3000+ A64 runs @ 1.8ghz, but the 1.8ghz CPU does more operations per clock and therefore they run similarly. So here you are buying into the "wattage myth" the same way people have been the ghz myth Intel has forced on people for years....

lol, ok my bad. I guess since you have soooo much more knowledge and experiance than me you don't need my help. You are not getting bashed. You came and asked for help and we are trying to help you.

btw, what kind of phase do you have? I would love to see a pic of it. I don't believe I have ever seen a PS that shared power with the system before.

it was the fact you said you wouldnt pay that much for a 40watt change... wattage is NOT everything... you already stated you wouldnt spend that much for 40 watts difference... so your mind is made up... dont come to us when your house burns down


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817163028 <here is a 550watt Powmax for $20... these things should be illegal to sell

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817163107 <here is a 520watt Silverstone (a very GREAT power supply company) for $121

30 watts difference.. $100 difference... look at the reviews

I'll chime in a little bit...

I haven't seen a phase change that uses power from a typical ATX PSU, but even if you did have one I wouldn't recommend powering it from the same PSU as your system. I would recommend a second PSU just for the phase change unit, while the other PSU would be for your system. You wouldn't want to use just one PSU to power your system and phase change unit because your phase change unit NEEDS to be started up a few minutes before you startup your system. The phase change cooling needs a few minutes time to reach cold temps, it wont reach cold temps right away at bootup.

I'm not gonna recommend anything else since everyone else here has already chimed in oh what PSU you need for your system.

get a good PSU, you don't want to get a generic one I leanred from mistakes

dont get Aspire.... id go with Antec.... go with NEO or Truepower....

What you should do? You should listen to the members here and get a good quality PSU for that system!!! They're right. There's not some kinda conspiracy going around to make you waste your money on an expensive PSU for no reason.

PSU's aren't all about peak wattage, and to be honest if you don't think you need amazing 12 volt rails and such..... well.... maybe you should go with a $20 (no i don't know the exact price, just trying to get a point across) 600W PSU for that lush (wow, what a word...) expensive system and see what happens.



You're not really getting bashed. We're trying to give you good advice, to try and prevent you from trashing your nice new system, and you're just not really listening.

Good post Markie