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robAP
it not resetting...its not booting....i hit the power button and for just a nanosecond i see the led's in the fans come on then cut out just as fast. nothing........the red led on the motherboard designating power is supplied continues to shine but after that the PSU will not power on...i have to switch it off in the back and then back on again to get it to do the same momentary power on...

i turn it on and it dosent do anything....everythings plugged in correctly...
ideas on what to check please?

Enermax EG565AX-VE 535watt. brand new.
system same as in my sig.
hardnrg
EXACTLY the same thing happened when a cheap fan controller's circuit board was shorting out on the case because it was exposed (and poorly designed)

i'd disconnect everything and then try pluggin stuff in one by one to find out what's causing the (possible) short...
Flashstar
Make sure that no standoffs are contacting the motherboard's base where they aren't meant to.
Ste
Ya, basically what they said, theres something shorting it out, probably some wire touching the case, just recheck all your wirering and make sure no part of the motherboard or any wire is touching the Case or any other metal piece it should not be touching.
IUMaestro
it's a short. get the board on a neutral surface (like it's cardboard box with the cards in, hook up the PSU etc etc. and make sure it posts...

after that, THEN put it in the case. my geuss is that the board is shorting out on the case.
robAP
its the origional board AND its origional standoffs. just a new case and PSU.
ill check the wiring. thers a good chance something left uncapped (like the pesky 3-pin fan connectors) thats toutching the interior surface. what sux is that if i have to tear it all down, it'll be a bear....its a nice tightly packaged WC setup that i'm VERY suprised fit together this nicely and clean....

ill keep you informed. but i can ensure that its NOT the mobo standoffs. ill start by unhooking all the fans and move the wiring out from the nooks and crannys to make sure nothing uncapped is connecting...

keep the ideas commin guys. thisll be the last great XPm overclock.
danyo64
if its a new case, the standoff holes could be slightly different than your last case making them touch when they didnt in your last case, anyways, try it with bare minimum.. mobo,cpu,vid card and psu and see if it posts then add shtufff
robAP
fraid i dont understand......i only used the same standoffs as the previous case....ie: only enough standoffs as there are holes in the mobo for the mounting. either way ill find it. ill be freeing things up and unplugging some non-essentials...
danyo64
good luck with that.. would really suck to see such a good oc die like that.. sad.gifsad.gif

but i have faith in u fixing it smile.gifsmile.gif
robAP
yeah. its 2500 on 1.75vcore....at 1.85 well see what can be done....then after 6 months or so ill move on finally to a 939, and see what water can do there.
IUMaestro
you said it's standoffs from the old case? try the ones that came with this new case.

and yea dude if you say a 3-pin is touching something, cap that son.
robAP
same style standoffs....identical. just to make sure im going to cut up some card-stock paper (50# paper) squares and make sure theyre on both sides. unplugged all the fans and pulled all the stored wires out of their hiding place into the free air and separated them.....

same result. time to start unplugging drives and USB headers and what not....
a_rabbit
I have the exact same problem with my old XP 2700. It's been doing nothing but run FAH for the last year, then suddenly two weeks ago everything but the power light cutoff. After resetting it, it now has the same symptoms as your computer. I disconnected everything except the 20pin ATX power connector and I've had no success getting it to stay powered up. The problem could be the power supply itself, so try to swap power supplies if you can.
BiPolar
this may be too simple, but try reseating all of your ram/cables/etc. If yo uare running dual channel, maybe try taking one out.
robAP
Tell me how to test the PSU. i've unplugges everything but the mobo connector and the same thing happens....now im going to swap in the old PSU and see what happens. ill know for sure then.

[EDIT:] well i replaced the PSU......plugged it into just the mobo and CPU sockets and the old high ripple Thermaltake powered up its own fans and a casefan (red leds so i could be sure it delivered power)

completely removed the enermax and separated all the cables. plugged it into the same sockets only and ....nothing....it appears the enermax is DOA. wich is beyond belief seeing the rep these guys have. i bought it (newegg) a while back during my slow buildup of this new system.....how many days/months do i have before i loose the ability to return/RMA it? the origional box and packaging is cut up...except for that handy blue zipper bag that i have NO idea what to do with it...

any ideas? [END TRANSMISSION *gang sign*]
a_rabbit
I had a feeling that the power supply had died (RAM would not cause this kind of problem.) You can most likely still RMA it, as some warranties go for as long as 3 years.

I need to buy a new power supply for that XP 2700 system.
danyo64
hmmm.. i have heard a couple of ppl here who have had some bad experiences with enermax... yeah, you can probably RMA it.
robAP
went to newegg and went through the RMA process. was approved and got the number and shipping and everything. looking at newegg i aparently bought it 8/21/05. this was the PSU recommended by BigRed in mid august. this was supposed to be the good one out of the others the made. oh well. it had to happen to someone. i hope this dosent take too long cause i cant overclock any further till i get it. im at the limit of the Tt-430. its done fine for more than 1.5 years now at this power level..
Kash
I don't exactly know how long an RMA process takes with Enermax, but it seems as though they should be the ones you should RMA it to seeing as how you bought this thing a relatively long time ago from Newegg. They might wonder why you didn't RMA it back in August if it was DOA.
robAP
because now is when i put it in the new-build. took longer to build than i expected, anyway, the old PSU is in and it fires up.......no video....i don't think its posting tho...cuase the screen is blank and in standby....no beeps...

the aggravation...grrrr
IUMaestro
hardware that doesn't work is the worst.. unless you work at a shop smile.gif where everything is readily available.

where do you live robAP?
robAP
Buffalo NY.....from MO....just live in Buffalo. its bills this sabers that.....wish i had cable or dish network so i coudl watch Chiefs this and Blues that......cable internet and rabbit ears on the TV...go figure eh? smile.gif
FxXP
The 535w SLI model from Enermax is not the best power supply they made. I had two DOA's and one with bad rails. The 550w may be priced higher, but it's superior in quality.
Ste
The only reason why I bought the 535 Watt ATX 2.0 Enermax PSU is cause Bigred reccomended it to me.
hardnrg
another enermax death... i don't think i'll buy an enermax psu right now lol...
FxXP
Nah, just avoid the 535w SLI and the Coolergiants. The Noisetakers are the better ones.
Skynet
same thing that was happeing to me, i found out that the reaon was that my mobo was grounding out cuz my standoffs weren't there. Make sure ur mobo is touching no metal
Ste
What I still can't figure out is that my motherboard and case needed no stand offs, I just screwed the screws in and thats it, however, ever other build I did after that I needed standoffs. werid
IUMaestro
hardware is always changing..
enermax lost it's bid for top notch. they are still good, but i get a lot in the shop that die... there is a difference though.. they don't suck, then die...

they do a great job, but just don't seem to last very long
Ste
what really pisses me off, is those new cases with "toolless designs" I like good old fashioned screws and connectors better.
Psychotic_god
QUOTE(Ste @ Oct 10 2005, 01:17 AM)
what really pisses me off, is those new cases with "toolless designs" I like good old fashioned screws and connectors better.
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I know right! If you look at my case pics, I got the Kandalf case that came with the tool-less PCI thing in the back, it was really bad so I just took it off. As for my front bay drives/accessories, I had to put screws on the cause the "tool-less" system wasn't holding them in place.
Sagittaria
meh, no matter what build i do all i check for is if it looks good and is compatible, i really don't care about build quality because i'm going to probably mod it anyways. Though i'm with you Psychotic_god, those tooless designs are just a waste of money
robAP
IT'S...ALIVE !!

when installing a PSU and building a new system, always double check your connections, and routing of cables....

then check for stupidity.

know what was causing the short? that darn adapter for the previous version of CPU connection. make sure that adapter is attached to the correct lines rather than the incorrect ones that also seem to happily fit there. immediate short.

so, its alive....solid...and no i can overclock freely to my chips content....wich unfortunately only turned out to be another 105 mhz...sad.gif....ill be posting about that in the overclocking threads...

thansk you guys for your help. you've always been a great bunch of problem solvers...and trouble makers. look for pics soon in the overclocking and the modding sections. this thing took about 2 months to piece together.
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