http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...1104435&CatId=0

IS that a real good psu, cause i think it is, correct me if ive missed something.

Tt powersupplies suck, just like pretty much every other Tt product. WOW! 18A on the 12volt rail, that is pitiful. How does the CEO of Tt sleep at night?

what would be better then, same price or lower and same wattage or higher?

Do you need it to be ATX 2.0 (24 pin) or not?

im not really sure intel CPU, but this mobo, looks like I could go either way, 24 pin connector or use 4 pin.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813128287

Hmm, odd setup. However I would go with ATX 2.0 as you could use the 24 pin AND the 4 pin 12 volt for extra stability (never can have too much power ) plus the dual 12 volt rails generally help with stability as well.

This is what I would reccomend for around the same price. Has almost double the amps on the 12 volt rails, is very quiet, and is fully certified for SLI, can't beat that for $88.

All you have to do is mention Tt anymore and the thread is over. However, in this case I will agree with the masses. I normally defend Tt, but I would not buy a Tt power supply. They could very well make some decent ones, but I just know of too many other makers that are so much better for around the same prices.

For just a few bucks more, you can get a Fortron Source 500W ATX v2.0 PreSleeved from newegg. I have one and I love it. The v2.0 concept is nice, although I haven't research how much of a difference it REALLY makes. Either way, it's a very nice and very solid PSU and it comes presleeved. Highly recommended.

looks good thanks, but sitll has 18 amps on 12 V

Notice that is has 2 12 volt rails. It has 18A on EACH.

I think ill go with the enermax, He doesn't want the looks even though it looks like a good psu, also I don't like the Amps on the 12V rail.



Oh diond't see that.

Actually, Tt makes a decent powersupply as long as you're not overclocking too much, and you're not running SLI. As long as you get one that is over 480 watts, it should power your system fine. However, since you're going to be running PCI-Express, get something with PCI-Express connectors. Antec makes a great 550 Watt PSU for 89 bucks at newegg. I'd suggest that.

Nagash: This is the third time I've seen you bash a product that many people on these forums have said work pretty well. The basis of your assumption that Tt makes a bad PSU is only because you hate Tt. That isn't a good basis. Be helpful to the person who needs help. Don't see it as an opportunity to bash a company.

well he won't be overclocking at all, he knows little about computers and i don't feel like ocing it for him then having it overheat and me have to fix it later it is a prescot.

As long as it below 90 I will take any suggestion I have 2 days to find the best I can maybe it would help If I posted all the parts?

Harddrive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822148069

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820145440

Proc
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819116200

CD/DVD combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827200003

Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813128287

Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813128287

dang...i just bought one of the Dynex PSUs BestBuy carries ($130 ) for $24 500w ATX 2.0 18A/16A on the 12s adn suprisingly nice....for a non OC system i see no probs at all, even with teh little OC on thsi celly it's right around 12.11 on the 12s (that's the average of what ive seen but it has been very stable) I really think that ATX 2.0 is the way for you to go, the above mentioned PSUs seem like a pretty good option for the situation...too bad you cant get a friend's best buy employee discount

Go over to Xtremesystems.org (I do, all the time) and see what they have to see about Tt power supplies. Don't base your entire opinion about something off of what you read on one forum (or 20 forums for that matter).

Also, I thought I was rather helpful, I pointed him in the direction of a better PSU for his money (please don't tell me you think that Tt is better than the Enermax that I showed him).

You will see that's the same case with the one I posted. The whole idea behind ATX 2.0 is that it has 2 12v lines. It's been a while since I read about the whole system, but I think 1 12v line is purely for the mainboard and the other is for all your HDDs and VGUs and such. I'm a little fuzzy on the specifics right now, but basically it divides the 12v rail up to even the load.

@cchalogamer:
Buying ANYTHING Dynex on a Best Buy employee discount is AWESOME because it's the Best Buy brand and they have huge margins on them. When I used to work there, I bought tons of Dynex cables and burnables because they were pennies on the dollar with my discount.

Well I have heard antec and OCZ make good ps.

I can't find that antec 550watts for 90, its like 110.

but does this seem accpetable?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813128287

Ok lets take this a differen't way, what brand names should i steer clear of all together?

According to Computerpro3 (Xtremesystems.org resident PSU expert) the following power supply brands should be avoided.

Achieve
Aerocool
Allied
Aspire
Codegen
Coolmax
Demon
Deer
Devanni.
Dynapower
Eagle
E-power (except Tagan series)
InWin
JustPC
Kingwin
L&C
Linkworld
MGE,
Power-Man
Powmax
Power-Up
Raidmax
Thermaltake
Ultra
X-superalien
X-treme

wow, and that leaves?

Well, I will stand in Tt's defense yet again at this point. A link to that list was posted here not too long ago, and when I read it, it had a note at the bottom saying that some Tt PSUs were OK, and others were not.

As I said before though, I don't think I would ever buy one. There's too many other (more trustyworthy) brands out there.

Yes, I have linked that post about four times now. It still is useful . And let's see, that leaves (in no particular order) Antec, Enermax, Zippy/Emacs, Tagan, PC Power and Cooling, FSP (Forton), Sparkle, Seasonic, SilenX, Vantec, OCZ, Silverstone and Zalman

If noone else has any more suggestion i will be buying this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817103512

I'm not only basing my defense of Tt PSUs on what is said in this forum, I'm also basing my defense on the fact that I've used a Tt PSU in my rig. It is currently in another rig of mine and still running great. I never said that Tt was better than Enermax. I just said that Tt made a decent PSU. Don't base your entire opinion off of something you read on one forum (xtremesystems.org, nice turn around eh?)

Ste: Good choice. Sorry about posting an outdated price on that Antec. My bad.

its ok dude, we all human..

Thats a motherboard not a ps.

With Antec smartpower is an older series and true power is newer but I personal am getting a smartpower untill I upgrade

You mean these 550 watt antec ps.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817103932
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817103922



Keep that in mind when I by ps.

ok, i HAVE a Tt 480W PurePower Butterfly in my axp rig and while it still works, the 12v rails are weak and drop under load, and all the rails fluctuate noticeably...

when compared to my Antec Neopower 480W, the Tt psu is indeed a poor choice... it's probably the worst choice of psu's that are decent... so it isn't complete trash, but i wouldn't use one in a new rig or buy one as a replacement...

yea, the neopower 480 is EXCELLENT

Believe me I am not, I am also basing it off real world experience. As my friend had not one but two Tt power supplies fail in his PC. That was kind of the turn off point for me and Tt PSUs.

110 is to much, ya link is,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817103512

Ste - while everybody else is arguing with each other: yes buy that it's good. you willbe happy

Already done and installed and working, the only thing that pissed me off is that the case was bent a little bit at the back upper right corner so it was fun getting in psu, I later have to remove its only fan cover case it prutruded so much that 1 80MM fan, the holes wouldn't aling.

Its was fun though..