Here is my current build in progress:
Asus P5GD2 Deluxe Mobo (24 PIN)
Antec TrueControl 550 W (20 PIN) Specs indicate 30A on the 12V rail.
GeForce 6600GT
P4 630J CPU
120 SATA HD
2 x 512 PC4200 (Crucial)
Any problems with the PSU having only 20 pins and the Mobo having 24?
Should I return the PSU and get on that has the 24 PIN connector, if so which is a recommended model.
Thanks
Domer
Full Version: 20pin Cpu W/ 24 Pin Mobo?
Thanks for the reference. I have been reading around on this issue and the conclusions seem to be up in the air. the 20 pin should work well in the 24 pin connector, but if I wanted to use a 24 pin PSU (I can still trade in my current PSU) which would be a good choice?
Thanks for your help.
Domer
Thanks for your help.
Domer
If your board needs a 24 pin psu then i would suggest it. Those who own DFI NF4 boards and didn't have one can tell you about all the wierd problems encountered with the wrong psu.
If you can easily return your current PSU then I would recommend getting a 24-pin ATX v2.0 PSU (dual 12v rails and the ATX 24pin connector). If you need recommendations for a new PSU just let us know a price budget.
budget around 120 dollars... thats what I paid for the 550..
I would look at Enermax. 30+ amps on all 3 lines.This one would probably take care of all your needs for a while. I use the 465watt version and its as stable as a rock on my rig.
Thanks for the help..I'll be returning this to a local retailer so I'll need to have about 3 - 5 choices. You never know what they are going to carry and this particular retailer carries a large selection...
Why dont you get an adapter instead 
this is a 20 to 24 and there's 24 to 20
http://www.adpmods.com/case-modding/produc...01&cat=7&page=1
Edit: wow, i tought the issue here was to connect a 20 pin psu to a 24 mobo, obviously i was wrong. There are psu salesmen here.
570W, 600W thank god no one is selling power plants for pc's lol
this is a 20 to 24 and there's 24 to 20
http://www.adpmods.com/case-modding/produc...01&cat=7&page=1
Edit: wow, i tought the issue here was to connect a 20 pin psu to a 24 mobo, obviously i was wrong. There are psu salesmen here.
570W, 600W thank god no one is selling power plants for pc's lol
Here are some recommendations from newegg. When I refer to Topower they are the manufacturer's of the OCZ PSU's.
ATX v1.3 recommendations (24pin). Not ATX v2.0, but they are still very good.
Athena 550watt PSU (re-badged Topower P6) for $87.50
Tagan 480watt PSU (another re-badged Topower P6, I own one myself) for $81.99
PCMCIS 550watt PSU (another re-badged Topower P6, used one for a friends system) for $83
ATX v2.0 recommendations
XClio PSU's (various), they are the same thing as the Antec NeoPower minus the modular cables.
Antec NeoPower 480watt PSU for $129
Fortron 550watt EPS12v PSU for $97
EPower 570watt PSU (another re-badged Topower P6) for $120 (my personal recommendation for your budget)
Have you even read the PSU FAQ? Here I'll make it easy for you and I will just quote from it why those "adapters" are pretty much useless junk.
Plus you also have to consider that any add-on adapter not part of the actual copper wire from the PSU will increase the electrical resistance; thereby lowering the amount of electricity going through the adapter and thus causing lower voltages.
ATX v1.3 recommendations (24pin). Not ATX v2.0, but they are still very good.
Athena 550watt PSU (re-badged Topower P6) for $87.50
Tagan 480watt PSU (another re-badged Topower P6, I own one myself) for $81.99
PCMCIS 550watt PSU (another re-badged Topower P6, used one for a friends system) for $83
ATX v2.0 recommendations
XClio PSU's (various), they are the same thing as the Antec NeoPower minus the modular cables.
Antec NeoPower 480watt PSU for $129
Fortron 550watt EPS12v PSU for $97
EPower 570watt PSU (another re-badged Topower P6) for $120 (my personal recommendation for your budget)
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Why dont you get an adapter instead blink.gif
this is a 20 to 24 and there's 24 to 20
http://www.adpmods.com/case-modding/produc...01&cat=7&page=1
this is a 20 to 24 and there's 24 to 20
http://www.adpmods.com/case-modding/produc...01&cat=7&page=1
Have you even read the PSU FAQ? Here I'll make it easy for you and I will just quote from it why those "adapters" are pretty much useless junk.
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Q: My motherboard has a ATX 24-pin connector, do I have to purchase a 24-pin ATX PSU? Will my regular 20-pin PSU work? How about a 20-pin to 24-pin ATX adapter?
A: The Intel 915/925/925XE and the nVidia Nforce4 motherboards have a 24-pin ATX connector that is backwards compatible with a 20-pin PSU. It is recommended that a 24-pin PSU is used, but a 20-pin ATX PSU will work absolutely fine as well. The pins on the ATX connector are keyed to prevent incorrect installation.
If a 20-pin ATX PSU is used in a 24-pin slot on a motherboard, the extra 4 pins on the 24-pin ATX connector will not be used at all. There is a misconception that the ATX 12v "P4" 4-pin connector would have to be plugged into those extra 4 pins. The 4-pin P4 connector does not plug into the extra 4 pins on a ATX 24-pin connector if a 20-pin ATX PSU is used. The extra 4 pins on a 24-pin ATX connector are 3.3v/5v/12v/ground wires. The ATX 12v P4 4-pin connector is 2 X 12v and 2 X ground wires.
The 20-pin to 24-pin ATX adapters are pretty much worthless in reality. The reason for the move from a 20-pin ATX connector to a 24-pin ATX connector is to provide more overall power. Each individual wire can only supply so many amps. These "adapters" simply split some of the wires from the 20-pin ATX connector in order to end up with the 24-pin connector. These splitted wires cannot provide the full amount of power compared to a native 24-pin ATX connector.
For higher-power setups like a SLI setup it is recommended to have a native 24-pin ATX connector. Here is my own personal test of a 20-pin ATX connector plugged into a 24-pin ATX slot.
A: The Intel 915/925/925XE and the nVidia Nforce4 motherboards have a 24-pin ATX connector that is backwards compatible with a 20-pin PSU. It is recommended that a 24-pin PSU is used, but a 20-pin ATX PSU will work absolutely fine as well. The pins on the ATX connector are keyed to prevent incorrect installation.
If a 20-pin ATX PSU is used in a 24-pin slot on a motherboard, the extra 4 pins on the 24-pin ATX connector will not be used at all. There is a misconception that the ATX 12v "P4" 4-pin connector would have to be plugged into those extra 4 pins. The 4-pin P4 connector does not plug into the extra 4 pins on a ATX 24-pin connector if a 20-pin ATX PSU is used. The extra 4 pins on a 24-pin ATX connector are 3.3v/5v/12v/ground wires. The ATX 12v P4 4-pin connector is 2 X 12v and 2 X ground wires.
The 20-pin to 24-pin ATX adapters are pretty much worthless in reality. The reason for the move from a 20-pin ATX connector to a 24-pin ATX connector is to provide more overall power. Each individual wire can only supply so many amps. These "adapters" simply split some of the wires from the 20-pin ATX connector in order to end up with the 24-pin connector. These splitted wires cannot provide the full amount of power compared to a native 24-pin ATX connector.
For higher-power setups like a SLI setup it is recommended to have a native 24-pin ATX connector. Here is my own personal test of a 20-pin ATX connector plugged into a 24-pin ATX slot.
Plus you also have to consider that any add-on adapter not part of the actual copper wire from the PSU will increase the electrical resistance; thereby lowering the amount of electricity going through the adapter and thus causing lower voltages.
I would definately reccomend going with the Enermax PSU's. I bought the 600W vversion and i have nothing but good things to say about it.
Hienrich
Hienrich
Thanks for all the help..I sghould be able to find one of thoes...
By the way. How relaible or the modular cable PSU's? Any known issues with them?
By the way. How relaible or the modular cable PSU's? Any known issues with them?
All a difference of opinons, I own the ultra-x connect 500watt psu and I dislike it cuz the cables are stiffer than non modular cables...other than that no real downside if it comes from a reliable company like antec.
Quote :Have you even read the PSU FAQ? Here I'll make it easy for you and I will just quote from it why those "adapters" are pretty much useless junkThe 20-pin to 24-pin ATX adapters are pretty much worthless in realityThese splitted wires cannot provide the full amount of power compared to a native 24-pin ATX connector."
Well maybe if you're talking infinite loss that can be counted with a multimeter a wire split of 12V exactly will have on both ends of the split 11.97 if you call that a loss i agree, but most psu you will buy arent even going to keep their 12V for 2 months if they have it to start with.
This thing isn't going to mars, you have to be real about that. Sounds like the air flow dilema, push, pull, air resistance of things inside the case, hot air trapped here, too much flow there c'mon get serious, if you want to change your ps cause it's got 20 pins and you want 24 just ask what 's a good 24 pin psu, dont ask for ways to go about plugging it.
And adapters are good for what they were intended for adapt, dont go saying that they're pieces of sh..., cause you're saying every molex except the first on each branch is one too, every 'Y' splitter is one too, every fan adapter is one too cause they all split from a source, and what do you know your pc is full of it Mr psu guru .
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So instead of trying to step on someone trying to help with your stories, why dont you help someone with constructive replys the guy that started this thread is big enough to choose for himself i beleive. And quote:" Have you even read the PSU FAQ? Here I'll make it easy for you " you really should call yourself ego guru
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Gees, there's always one of these to f.. up a good day
EDIT: The friggin psu faQ was written by you, no wonder you want to quote them loll i was just thinking the psu faq must have been written by another egocentric like himself lollll
Btw dont bother to reply, you,ll only be talking to yourself i have said all i have to say and dont have time to argue with humm! someone like you
Well maybe if you're talking infinite loss that can be counted with a multimeter a wire split of 12V exactly will have on both ends of the split 11.97 if you call that a loss i agree, but most psu you will buy arent even going to keep their 12V for 2 months if they have it to start with.
This thing isn't going to mars, you have to be real about that. Sounds like the air flow dilema, push, pull, air resistance of things inside the case, hot air trapped here, too much flow there c'mon get serious, if you want to change your ps cause it's got 20 pins and you want 24 just ask what 's a good 24 pin psu, dont ask for ways to go about plugging it.
And adapters are good for what they were intended for adapt, dont go saying that they're pieces of sh..., cause you're saying every molex except the first on each branch is one too, every 'Y' splitter is one too, every fan adapter is one too cause they all split from a source, and what do you know your pc is full of it Mr psu guru .
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So instead of trying to step on someone trying to help with your stories, why dont you help someone with constructive replys the guy that started this thread is big enough to choose for himself i beleive. And quote:" Have you even read the PSU FAQ? Here I'll make it easy for you " you really should call yourself ego guru
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Gees, there's always one of these to f.. up a good day
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The friggin psu faQ was written by you, no wonder you want to quote them loll i was just thinking the psu faq must have been written by another egocentric like himself lollllBtw dont bother to reply, you,ll only be talking to yourself i have said all i have to say and dont have time to argue with humm! someone like you
QUOTE(kobalt @ Apr 4 2005, 07:07 PM)
Quote :Have you even read the PSU FAQ? Here I'll make it easy for you and I will just quote from it why those "adapters" are pretty much useless junkThe 20-pin to 24-pin ATX adapters are pretty much worthless in realityThese splitted wires cannot provide the full amount of power compared to a native 24-pin ATX connector."
Well maybe if you're talking infinite loss that can be counted with a multimeter a wire split of 12V exactly will have on both ends of the split 11.97 if you call that a loss i agree, but most psu you will buy arent even going to keep their 12V for 2 months if they have it to start with.
This thing isn't going to mars, you have to be real about that. Sounds like the air flow dilema, push, pull, air resistance of things inside the case, hot air trapped here, too much flow there c'mon get serious, if you want to change your ps cause it's got 20 pins and you want 24 just ask what 's a good 24 pin psu, dont ask for ways to go about plugging it.
And adapters are good for what they were intended for adapt, dont go saying that they're pieces of sh..., cause you're saying every molex except the first on each branch is one too, every 'Y' splitter is one too, every fan adapter is one too cause they all split from a source, and what do you know your pc is full of it Mr psu guru .
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So instead of trying to step on someone trying to help with your stories, why dont you help someone with constructive replys the guy that started this thread is big enough to choose for himself i beleive. And quote:" Have you even read the PSU FAQ? Here I'll make it easy for you " you really should call yourself ego guru
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Gees, there's always one of these to f.. up a good day
EDIT: The friggin psu faQ was written by you, no wonder you want to quote them loll i was just thinking the psu faq must have been written by another egocentric like himself lollll
Btw dont bother to reply, you,ll only be talking to yourself i have said all i have to say and dont have time to argue with humm! someone like you
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Well maybe if you're talking infinite loss that can be counted with a multimeter a wire split of 12V exactly will have on both ends of the split 11.97 if you call that a loss i agree, but most psu you will buy arent even going to keep their 12V for 2 months if they have it to start with.
This thing isn't going to mars, you have to be real about that. Sounds like the air flow dilema, push, pull, air resistance of things inside the case, hot air trapped here, too much flow there c'mon get serious, if you want to change your ps cause it's got 20 pins and you want 24 just ask what 's a good 24 pin psu, dont ask for ways to go about plugging it.
And adapters are good for what they were intended for adapt, dont go saying that they're pieces of sh..., cause you're saying every molex except the first on each branch is one too, every 'Y' splitter is one too, every fan adapter is one too cause they all split from a source, and what do you know your pc is full of it Mr psu guru .
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So instead of trying to step on someone trying to help with your stories, why dont you help someone with constructive replys the guy that started this thread is big enough to choose for himself i beleive. And quote:" Have you even read the PSU FAQ? Here I'll make it easy for you " you really should call yourself ego guru
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Gees, there's always one of these to f.. up a good day
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The friggin psu faQ was written by you, no wonder you want to quote them loll i was just thinking the psu faq must have been written by another egocentric like himself lollllBtw dont bother to reply, you,ll only be talking to yourself i have said all i have to say and dont have time to argue with humm! someone like you
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I'll be nice and not argue about the subject in this thread anymore. If I really wanted to I could argue about several fallacies in your response. I'll just sit back and play nice.
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