Sorry, it gave me something to do though!









No idea if it'll work or not, couldn't figure out how to do rounded tubing so it's all 90 degree bends, which I won't be doing

look nice

lol yey! Should be pretty obvious what everything is in there... the white cylinder is a duct and the blue block attached to the big black block (the rad) is a 120mm->80mm convertor, which has the other end of the duct shoved in it. Pretty much just because I don't have another 120mm fan

What program did you use for that? Solidworks?

a few serious issues i have with this design, all the 90* kinks... the small duct, the small rad, the rad in a box, the 120-80 reducer

i'd say you need to re-arrange it so that there aren't so many sharp bends, forget the skinny duct altogether and just make a 120mm square duct...

why is the rad like 40mm tall? or is the pump as big as the 120mm rad?

A program called AC3D. Like I said, they won't be 90 degree kinks, I just can't do bends in the program.

What's wrong with the small(er) 80mm duct? The 120mm fan will be getting fresh air from outside, blowing it through, then back out through the duct, stopping the hot air from just hovering around inside the box. I can't see what's wrong with that one?

It's not all in proportion. The rad is 120mm, the pump is actually near enough as tall as it though (if you include the top barb), Hydor L30.

I have figured I would need a bigger box than I thought at first, which is a bit of a bummer. Looks like it's going to be huge...

Why is it there at all? is there a requirement for an 80mm duct? why not just make it a 120mm duct?

the smaller tapered duct will impede the airflow so why have it?

Because it's sitting right here and it screws on very nicely

It will impede airflow? There's only a 7v fan on the other side, there isn't too much coming out on the duct side. I reckon it's plenty big enough for the amount there is... maybe not? I put my hand near the duct when I screwed it on and it felt like the air was coming out good to me. I've had it running with and without the duct and there's also no temperature difference, so I thought it was fine?

might be... if i was going to the effort of making a box like that tho, i'd make a straight square duct that was >120mm big, basically a bit bigger than the whole rad, like a big square tunnel, the rad barbs poking through, and a 120mm hole on each end for fans....

It's probably going to have to look more like this to be honest, with the pump on its side... so that'll probably make the whole thing vibrate and be incredibly noisy. It's harder than I thought to make a small box with everything in it! By the way I do appreciate your comment, I just feel that the 80mm duct is fine in my case.

lol, how would you have the barbs sticking out if it went over the whole rad? I only have the one 120mm fan The duct is just so the warm air goes straight back out like I said, or that's the plan.

I'm still thinking the whole thing over by the way. I might get .... pee'd off with trying to make it as small as possible and just end up with some huge lump of a box It's really difficult trying to make it all fit in to a small space!

some holes... close fitting...

you can always sound isolate the pump with rubber and/or foam...

Oh right. Thick dense kind of foam would be better, right? Probably just pad up a corner and stick it there

nice desing

Thanks I got really bored so I thought I would try find some CAD thing see if I could draw something to let you guys have a rough idea and comment on it. Kinda worked, cept I can't really do the tubing nice and curved. Where you see something like this for instance:
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That's more like a

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kind of bend! I think I got it all sussed out now, although the box is still quite big but... it seems like it'll all fit in like this:



I could just stick some rather thick foam in the corner where the pump is and I outta be sorted.

What would you have made the 120mm duct out of hardng? If you're still reading

all the same, you've got some 180* curves in there when you could either have 90* or 0* by having the tubes exit in a different place, and the pump orientated different... and where does the 2nd rad barb go to (or come from)?



probably fibre-glass, or fibre-glass resin on stockings... just cos it's a hell of a lot easier than sheet metal (i don't live in a workshop)

like this:
http://www.procooling.com/articles/html/ho...site_air_du.php

sort of.. its lighter and you can make whatever shape out of it...

Oooh I see how he does it now. That confused me a bit the first time I saw it

You mean like having the second res barb just go straight forward and out? The second rad barb exits the same place as I currently have the res exit but lower down. Really I wanted to have them both on the same side and relatively close to each other you see... I would say how do you think it outta be but... I guess it's probably hard to explain

So far it is, believe it or not, the best I can come up with. The tubing seems to bend around at all the places perfectly, although I must admit I am guestimating where the components are inside the box and sticking the tubing where I think it'd roughly be

Are 180 degree curves just as bad as a 90 degree sharp bend? 90 degree curves are alright aren't they?



Are the amount of pictures getting annoying? Should I just have them as links or is it ok?

i was thinking, why not have the least curves in your tubing... so instead of u-bends, just a curve...

sorta like this (or you could have the in/out down the bottom left)

edit: oh man, you've gone and changed it again! lol, but yeah, get rid of the u-bends man...

lol nice bodge job! love it! Do you think the tubing will bend that far, I was thinking the bend from the res you've done to the pump ... the sort of italic S shape... wouldn't that put pressure on the pump and res and try and force them out to the sides? Which would make the whole thing vibrate, alot I can give it a go though, when I get all the stuff. Just the 180 degree bends and the smaller duct you don't like then

I aint changed it again, I was just showing you the second rad barb you asked about, its the same from a different angle that's all

EDIT: What you've done there may very well work actually I am gonna try that one whenever I get all the stuff ready! I'm still having problems trying to find some _good_ yet cheaper than £60 (for all 4 I need) quick release fittings here in the UK *sigh*. Wonder if my post about pressure came back yet...

1) yep
2) oh yeah, i see... lmao... i was too busy with me photoshop antics to put my brain in 3d mode... (couldn't be arsed to model your design myself)

maybe putting the pump on its side might work better for the res-pump connection...

some uk suppliers... dunno, might be helpful
http://forums.overclockersclub.com/?showtopic=1559
(towards the bottom of the post)

Cool all you need are the internals...Drop by my W/c System f/s thread

http://forums.overclockersclub.com/?showtopic=29120

Oh I already have the internals I'm just moving it all from inside my case to outside of my case

hardnrg, I think your idea will work anyway... so there'd be no 180 degree bends then atleast haha! I don't blame you for not wanting to redo the whole design again! Good stuff!

Thanks for your input! Hopefully I will get my box tomorrow, although I can't put everything in it untiiiil I get me power quick release type thing and the two water ones. The thing is, I didn't want to get those until I knew everything would fit in the box... and I don't want to do that until I have those (because it would mean putting it all back together again and it's sooooooo much effort!)

The joy, the joy! Would you bother to see if it all fit in the box well or would you just order the stuff and go for it?

I expect you're sleeping by now anyway so good night

sleep? HA! i laugh in the face of sleep... i type instead...

order the stuff.. if it doesn't work in the box, buy or make a different size / shape box...

haha! I don't I love sleep! order stuff time then!

i bet he is one pail mofo

pail... it should be "pale"... but er, no... i ain't casper the ghost... i'm half thai, so even when i'm my palest, i'm probably more tan than you

keyboards can be quite comfortable when you are on the verge of crashing. Most people learn this at a LAN party.

lmao hahahaha!