i imagine i will hear they are crap or lame, but anyting positive? i like the way the look and want to know how they cool (from experience i can read all the reviews i want) and people opinions of them thanks

RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black SECC STEEL ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811156062


and

RAIDMAX ATX-728WS Silver Aluminum Front Panel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811156076

I had the Smildon case when I first put the rig in my sig together. Over all it is a pretty decent case for the price. I switched when I went to water cooling because I wanted the extra room. It does get cramped pretty quickly.The fold out backside was real nice for putting things together and the removable hard drive bay was also a plus. It has a nice litle storage box under the hd drive bay to hold all of the extras. The two side fans worked great for helping cool the video card and ram in my system. If you look around the egg hard enough you can probably find it without the power supply for about 20 bucks cheaper like I did.

thanks alot i'll look harder for it without power supply. info was very much appreciated

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....LODON&x=12&y=26

it's $15 cheaper without psu but after MIR the one with psu is $5 cheaper, go figure so psu include is the way i'm going. wont hurt to have a backup even if it is a little junky.

I think the other case, the 728W looks better, and has a combo deal at the egg with a half decent Raidmax PSU... PLUS, it's 120mm fan friendly without modding... I'd definitely go with it...

i didnt notice that before , the thing i like about the other one is the fold out sides on it. the 728 does look better imo but i dont think that psu woul look worth a crap in it, the black version of the 728 it would though. thanks for the imput

*edit* nvm the black ones doesnt have the combo deal. i wouldnt but that psu in that case just for the looks of it but i havent rules out that case