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Angry_Games
Please bear with us as we change the format of this thread to include power supplies for ALL platforms and motherboard brands.

This guide was originally built for DFI-Street and most for DFI Lanparty NF4 customers. Since we have expanded our format, all of the information is still very much valid, but we have to keep this as a work-in-progress to help it move away from DFI-specific into a more general guide.

Thanks!

Angry_Games
Angry_Games
UPDATE: October 20th, 2006:davidhammock200, Happy_Games, ExRoadie

This list of recommended power supplies only applies to hardware available in North America and tested by DFI-Street.

Enermax Liberty 620w PSU is no longer on our recommended list. Way too many issues with this power supply. DO NOT BUY TO USE ON DFI SYSTEMS!

Also note we've added the Corsair HX-620 (620w) psu and I can honestly say it is EXTREMELY recommended as a top psu, and we've added 3 Antec units, and a Hiper unit!

(DFI-Street)
UPDATE: June 14th, 2006

DFI-Street.com Certified (ie: HIGHEST RECOMMENDATION)


OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply
(personally tested by Happy_Games. This and the OCZ 700w GX are my two favorite psu's!)

OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply
(current top-rated, top-recommended psu by Happy_Games and majority of the forum!)

FSP Group (Fortron Source) Epsilon FX600-GLN ATX12V/ EPS12V 600W Power Supply

FSP Group (Fortron Source) Epsilon FX700-GLN ATX12V/ EPS12V 700W Power Supply

Corsair HX620w ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply (Active PFC)
(quickly becoming Happy_Games' favorite psu. Modular, strong rails, low-heat, nearly silent...excellent excellent unit!)

PC Power & Cooling TURBO-COOL 1KW-SR SLI, EPS12V, SSI 1000W Power Supply 90 - 264V

Antec True Power Trio TP3-650 ATX12V 650W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails
(personally tested by Happy_Games...excellent choice for X1900 Crossfires / 7900 SLI's!)

These PSU's are all very very capable of powering up the latest 7900GT and 7900GTX SLI, 7950GTX, X1800XT and X1900XT Crossfire, AMD AthlonX2/Opteron Dual Core cpu's, and ALL current DFI motherboards including the following:

DFI Lanparty NF4 series original
DFI Lanparty NF4 Expert
DFI Lanparty NF4 Venus
DFI Lanparty RDX200 (ATI)
DFI Lanparty CFX3200-DR (ATI)
DFI Lanparty future AMD socket AM2 motherboards of all chipset flavors
DFI Lanparty future Intel Conroe motherboard of all chipset flavors

ALL CURRENT DFI MOTHERBOARDS AND ANY DFI MOTHERBOARD FOR AT LEAST ONE MORE YEAR FROM THE DATE OF THIS POST UNLESS SOMETHING DRASTIC CHANGES IN POWER REQUIREMENTS!

These are very reliable psu's that are more than capable of doing the job.

Notice that the top 4 are almost identical (the OCZ and Fortron/FSP psu's). They are all manufactured by Fortron, and are the highest recommended psu's in the forum as they have the largest user base, and the least amount of complaints.

I always recommend the OCZ psu's since we have a few OCZ reps in this forum who have always been more than willing to help out mutual customers (and they have even helped out non-OCZ customers!). The only real difference between the OCZ and FSP power supplies is the OCZ psu's have a blue LED fan, and the Fortron psu's do not have any LED fans.

And finally, the 1000w PCP&C psu. Everyone should by now know that PCP&C is the maybe the top name in power supplies...but you pay a premium for them.

The 510w version is extremely solid, but we simply cannot recommend it for the highest high end setups like those mentioned above. For that, you want to have any of the psu's on this list, including the PCP&C for your ultimate power needs. If you can afford this thing, you definitely want it.

Again, if you want a solid power supply that is reliable, trustworthy, and a growing majority of the users here are turning to, choose one of the OCZ GamerXstream power supplies. My personal favorite is the 700w (see the sig of Happy_Games)

OCZ BleedinEdge Support Forum

Andy@OCZ
Ryder@OCZ
Tony@OCZ
Marcus@OCZ (EU)

All of the above are EXCELLENT PSU's & are THE MOST HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

My personal choice for the most demanding systems is the Corsair HX 620W from only $150!

If you are NOT running UBER SLI/CF, then the Corsair HX 520W is my #1 choice from only $105!

If you have the bucks ($549!), the new PC P&C 1KW-SR (Single Rail: +12V@72A) is one of "THE BEST PSU's MADE".

My personal choice for "BEST BANG for the BUCK" is the OCZ GXS 600W for about $85!

One special note, if you require extreme quiet the the new Seasonic M-12 600W/700W should be available soon!.


DFI REQUIRES native 24-pin ATX molex & 480W for all the DFI N4 mobos.
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...22&postcount=34
"A" List for SLI & Expert PSU's:
These are KNOWN to work well with DFI N4 mobos, DFI ATI motherboards, including Expert, Venus, RDX200, CFX3200-DR!!


Antec True Power Trio TP3-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails
(Personally tested by Happy_Games...excellent psu. Can easily recommend for X1900/7900 Crossfire/SLI!)

PC P&C 510 ASL: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/vie...&view=techspecs
Only the 510 ASL model has the 8-pin (+12V) EPS connector REQUIRED for newer mobos!
$229: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/prices/

OCZ PowerStream 600W WARNING: The OCZ Powerstream 600w is a fantastic power supply but it is NOT recommended for X1900XT/7900GTX or newer Crossfire/SLI. Avoid if you plan on using them in X1900XT Crossfire or 7900GTX SLI, or any newer Crossfire/SLI setup! Other than this particular combination (Crossfire X1900 / SLI 7900 or newer), the OCZ 600w Powerstream is a fantastic psu and is highly recommended.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/powe...am_power_supply
From $179: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?tiled=1&...=Search+Froogle

These power supplies are MORE than capable of ANY setup with a single video card, 7900GT SLI, X1800XT Crossfire, or lower.

Enermax 600W (New) Noisetaker 600W EG701AX-VE (W)
From: $145: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?tiled=1&...=Search+Froogle

OCZ PowerStream 520W SLI Ready
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/powe...idia_sli_ready_
From $109: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?tiled=1&...=Search+Froogle

Enermax 535W FMA 535W
From $61:
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Enerma...ne&sa=N&start=0

Sparkle 550W (EPS) FSP550-60PLG
http://www.sparklepower.com/pdf/FSP550-60PLG.pdf
From $71: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?tiled=1&...=Search+Froogle

Fortron 550W (EPS) FSP550-60PLN
http://www.home2000.net/client/fspgroupusa...?linenumber=126
From $79: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?tiled=1&...=Search+Froogle

"A" List for Non-SLI / Non-Expert PSU's: These are KNOWN to work well with DFI N4 mobos using mid-range to low-end SLI/Crossfire:

Antec NeoPower NeoHE 550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply
(personally tested thoroughly by Happy_Games and it is an excellent psu. Not recommended for highest-end SLI/Crossfire (X1900 / 7900))

HIPER HPU-4K580-MS ATX12V 580W Power Supply
(personally tested by Happy_Games. No 8-pin EPS connector so not recommended for any board with the 8-pin EPS connect. Works most excellent in any other system. Not recommended for high-end Crossfire/SLI but will handle any overclocked system with any single high-end video card, or any mid-range to low-end SLI *7600, 6600, X1600 Xfire, etc*)
Very High Power & Very High $$$

PC P&C Turbo-Cool 1KW-SR (Single Rail: +12V@72A)
$549: http://www.pcpower.com/products/viewproduc...&view=techspecs

Zippy PSL 6850P 850W (+12V@60A)
Specs: http://www.zippy.com.tw/P_PRODUCT_DETAIL.a...br=3&lv_rfnbr=2
From $322: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid...nline&scoring=p

Very High Power for Fewer $$$

PC P&C Silencer 750 EPS12V 750W
Up to +12V@60A: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/vie...&view=techspecs
$199: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/prices/

PC P&C Silencer Silencer 610 EPS12V 610W
Up to +12V@49A: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/vie...&view=techspecs
$159: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/prices/

My personal choice for "BEST BANG for the BUCK" is the OCZ GXS 600W for about $85!

These quality brands offer "known good" PSU's,
however not every power supply they offer will meet your needs,
be especially careful to make sure that the +12V rail(s) offer a

Minimum of +12V@26A for Single Video Card Systems & +12V@34A for Dual Video Card (SLI) Systems.

Our Most Recommended PSU: OCZ Technology GameXStream 600W/700W

Class 1: These are the Best: PC Power & Cooling (All Turbo Cool & ULTRA-QUIET SILENCER 610W & 750W), Seasonic (S-12, S-12E+, M-12), Corsair, Silverstone (Zeus models ST56ZF, ST75ZF, and ST85ZF), Etasis & Zippy.

Class 2: Antec, Enermax, Enhance, Fortron (FSP), Hiper (Type-M 670W & 730W & Type-R 730W), I-Star, Mushkin, OCZ Technology,
PC Power & Cooling, Seasonic, Silverstone, Sparkle, Tagan, Thermaltake ToughPower (Only the ToughPower Line!), Vantec & XCilo.

Class 3: Hiper (Type-R 580W, 530W & 480W) & Sunbeam.

Unless we specifically recommend a PSU, please do not buy it,
as we only recommend PSU's that we have actually tested with DFI mobos!
These are the Modular PS's:

PC Power & Cooling Turbo Cool 510 (Modded by Performance-PCS)
+12V@34A, +5VSB@3A
From $279: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/pro...c79e557c87df484

Corsair HX 620W (My #1 Choice for Uber/Quad SLI/CF!)
Specs: http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/HX_power_supply.html
Up to +12V@50A, +5VSB@3A
From $151: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid...nline&scoring=p

Corsair HX 520W (My #1 Choice for everything else!)
Specs: http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/HX_power_supply.html
Up to +12V@40A, +5VSB@3A
From $105: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Corsai...nline&scoring=p

Antec Neo HE 550W
Up to +12V@42A
Specs: http://www.antec.com/specs/NeoHE550_spe.html
From $96: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Antec+...nline&scoring=p

Antec Neo HE 500W (Best Bang for the Buck!)
Up to +12V@38A
Specs: http://www.antec.com/specs/NeoHE500_spe.html
From $79: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Antec+...nline&scoring=p

OCZ ModStream 520W (Non-SLI/CF Only)
+12V@28A
Specs: http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/powe...am_power_supply
From $80: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=OCZ+Mo...nline&scoring=p

Hiper Type R 580W (Not for Highend SLI/CF)
Max Combined +12V@30A
Specs: http://www.hipergroup.com/English/products/hpu-4k580.html
From $95: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Hiper+...nline&scoring=p

NOT recommended for high-end setups (ie: dual core cpu + SLI/Crossfire), but still recommended for most low-end/mid-level setups:

XCLIO GOODPOWER 500W ATX 500W
$49:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817189005

Enermax 485W Noisetaker EG495AX-SFMA20
From $75: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid...ker&sa=N&tab=wf

Frotron Blue Storm 500W (AX500-A)
http://www.home2000.net/client/fspgroupusa...?linenumber=195
From $75: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Fortro...=Search+Froogle

Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-480 BLUE ATX12V 480W
From $80: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid...480&sa=N&tab=wf

Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 550W
From $85: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Antec+...50W&btnG=Search

Antec True Control 2.0 550W
From $105: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Antec+...50W&btnG=Search

Antec TRUEPOWER EPS12V/ ATX 12 Ver. 2.0 550W
From $87: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Antec+...50W&btnG=Search

UK/EU Best Punch for Pound PSUs: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/show...5&postcount=642
These are Very Quiet PSU's:

NOT recommended for high-end setups (ie: dual core cpu + SLI/Crossfire)

SeaSonic S12-500 ATX12V 500W
From $105: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=SeaSon...00W&btnG=Search

SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V 600W
From $140: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid...00W&sa=N&tab=wf

One special note, if you require extreme quiet & very high power the the new Seasonic M-12 600W/700W should be available soon!.

Seasonic: http://www.seasonicusa.com/


REMEMBER NATIVE 24-PIN ATX CONNECTOR & 480W's OR MORE!

More info is always available here: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/show...02&page=1&pp=20

Work in progress ... adding more ... Suggestions welcome.

Useful Info:

PSU Brands to Avoid! http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29248

ALWAYS UN-PLUG THE PSU POWER CORD BEFORE OPENING CASE!

Problems? Don't power any fans through the fan headers. This has solved several problems!

PSU’s for Future GPU’s! http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65949

PSU’s: The Best of the Best of the Best! http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1104880

SLI & Crossfire Power Supplies: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/show...5&postcount=234

Cheap, but Good PSU's: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/show...3&postcount=197
(Not for DFI High-Performance Mobos)

High Amperage +12V Single Rail PSU's: http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread...7656#post217656

Dave's Guide to Modular PSU's: http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142

PLUG IN ALL OF THE POWER CONNECTORS: http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...81&postcount=15

Pic of where to plug the 4 power connectors: http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...734&postcount=3

FDD Power Cable Splitter ($1.69): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16812101106

[Expert] p4 (4-pin, +12V) to EPS (8-pin, +12V) Adaptor: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ind...roducts_id=3204
THIS IS NOT DFI RECOMMENDED! Use for testing only!

How to Jump-Start an ATX PSU: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/show...ad.php?t=118964

How to test/read your rails/voltages: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/show...ad.php?t=137886

How to make fans run at 12V, 7V & 5V: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/show...4&postcount=297

A64 NF4 and NF3 Power Supply Requirements: Amps and Split Rails:
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7619

Max load on fan headers for N4: http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...58&postcount=12

Here is the 'official' DFI way of clearing the CMOS: http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showpost.p...0&postcount=837

Here are the most accurate & respected PSU Calculators on the web &
they allow for OVER CLOCKING which greatly increases the power demands.

http://takaman.jp/D/index.html?english

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/

PC P&C Power Supply Selector: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/pow...plies/selector/

PSU Test You Can Trust, by jonnyGURU: http://www.jonnyguru.com/

SLI and CrossFire Push Power Supplies to the Limit: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1932949,00.asp

Why the 480W Minimum Requirement? These are the Perfect Examples!

Thermaltake 480W SilentPurePower: ONLY +12V@18A!
http://www.thermaltake.com/purepower/W001314.htm

Thermaltake PurePower 560W: ONLY +12V@22A!
http://www.thermaltake.com/purepower/W0023.htm

Why do people buy these? :confused:

There are PSU's for under $30/$40 in the "Complete PSU Guide" with more +12V amperage!

These 2 TT PSU's are the "poster children" for DFI's 480W+ requirement &
based on these it should be a 600W+ requirement! rolleyes.gif

Roundup: 14 Power Supply Units from Thermaltake: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/dis...su-roundup.html tongue.gif sad.gif
Enjoy! wink.gif
supershanks
Found this interestingPSU Recommendations for High End Gaming PC's smile.gif
Angry_Games
(Supershanks;687969)


it will definitely be a nice change to not have to constantly recommend $100+ psu's for DFI systems.

I still will refuse to recommend anything like ULtra or Aspire unless they make something quality, but now we'll be able to test the $35-$75 range since we will get to try them on a good number of setups for all range of users.
supershanks
I still will refuse to recommend anything like ULtra or Aspire unless they make something quality, but now we'll be able to test the $35-$75 range since we will get to try them on a good number of setups for all range of users.
Sounds like a plan:cool: . Guru runs some interesting reviews.
thefabe
Well I don't know how much stock to put into this guide line but here is a power usage estimator link if you'll think it's worth having http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp As well as a basic power supply tutorial. long winded one at that http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/181/1
Angry_Games
I got to admit I just don't put any thought into these 'psu calculators'.

I tend to live along the lines of "I will buy something that I know is good, which means a $30 psu is not going to power my SLI or Core2".

ie based on the cpu and gpu I am running is how i choose a psu. There's no real rhyme or reason, its just experience.

I've seen some kick-ass $50 psu's. I've seen some mega-horrible $120 psu's.

brand/quality is more important than the sticker on the psu giving out it's specs.

This is why we trust OCZ, Corsair, PCP&C, Fortron, etc, and we don't trust Aspire, Ultra, Rosewill, etc.
k€lticknight
got me new ocz gamestream 850 watt psu:)
Pihrana
I bought the Seasonic S12 600W, based on reviews from the likes of TomsHardware, Viperlair, bytesizedreviews, Hexus, silentpcreview, custompc and PCSTATS to name a few.......

In all these tests its been able to show just how good it is........ However, in the DFI street recommendations its NOT recommended for Dual Core +SLI setups.......... Im not running SLI (Yet) but i am having issues with PRIME95 STABILITY !! Could the PSU be my problem ?
ZOldDude
Basicly if it is not DFI accepted it is crap.

By the way those Ultra PSU's -ARE- crap and I had two 600's die on me in 24 hours and sent the whole shipment back.
You can't pay me (well perhaps if you offered enough) to even accept a shipment of them for any company I might work for....but I would end up still sending them all back!
Raiderfan001
(ZOldDude;691130)
Basicly if it is not DFI accepted it is crap.


I don't think I would go as far as to say that. Lower end pc's do not have the same power requirements as a DFI.
ZOldDude
(Raiderfan001;691132)
I don't think I would go as far as to say that. Lower end pc's do not have the same power requirements as a DFI.


But that does not make the PSU any better does it?

By the way....what is a "lower end" PC today?

I used to mostly only use ASUS and Antec to build high end computers yet today I would never use either of them.

I would call Antec a 3'rd tier PSU today.
ASUS would be a non use item for me period.
Raiderfan001
my Antec is rock solid and has been for a while. Yes they did have problems before with SOME of their psu's but that does not mean they can't make good stuff today.

Lower end would be a non overclocked single core and a single mid range vid card. For this kind of system a subpar psu that is not recommended for a DFI would be just fine. And i'm not talking about some 2 dollar psu but like an ultra, cooler master, thermaltake...etc
Angry_Games
the S12-600 was a pretty good and very silent psu, but it never was able to handle the hardcore DFI + SLI setups

I retired mine to my server, a 3.4Ghz P4 Northwood w/2GB RAM and about 1TB of drives lol


as for the statement of "Basicly if it is not DFI accepted it is crap" is not anything I'd go running around shouting (because it just isn't true).

I'm more of the mind that the DFI boards required such high power requirements because they weren't really as well made as other boards that didn't require such high-end units to really accomplish the same end result...
ZOldDude
Do a search for my posts in the PSU section.

I always used to use Antec....but not now.
The point of failure for them is the same as for ASUS MB's.....the caps.
ZOldDude
(Angry_Games;691140)
the S12-600 was a pretty good and very silent psu, but it never was able to handle the hardcore DFI + SLI setups

I retired mine to my server, a 3.4Ghz P4 Northwood w/2GB RAM and about 1TB of drives lol


as for the statement of "Basicly if it is not DFI accepted it is crap" is not anything I'd go running around shouting (because it just isn't true).

I'm more of the mind that the DFI boards required such high power requirements because they weren't really as well made as other boards that didn't require such high-end units to really accomplish the same end result...


Well the point here might be if it is not "accepted" it might not be 100% crap but it sure as hell is not the best choice.

I really doubt you would recall all the PM's I sent to you befor I got down to building my first DFI setup....but I went against the OCZ and even did not opt for a Silverstone like Falcon uses.

The heart and soul of every system is the PSU and after much research I went with what is in my sig...but really those Ultra PSU's are nothing but crap!

As they say "your mileage may differ".
Raiderfan001
You can't fairly judge every psu without testing each and every single one yourself...which I'm guessing you haven't right? The ultra x infinitys are decent psu's. You can't just judge a brand for making one shitty psu. Sometimes companies learn from their mistakes.
Angry_Games
ULtra-X and Aspire psu's aren't worth $2 on any rig honestly

putting them in your rig, regardless of what rig you run, is like playing russian roulette except instead of only a single bullet, you only get a single empty chamber (ie 5 bullets instead of one lol)

There's no way I would ever even consider an Ultra psu for the weakest cheese system that was going to be given to my worst enemy.
dede99
I just got my new SLI-DR MB and now i have to buy new PSU also bc of the ATX 2, i'm thinking about to buy Tagan easycon XL V2 600W ATX 2.2.
What you guy's think about this one, is there anything i should know about?
THX in advance
DEDE
Dan42684
For the system I have, my PSU provides way too many cables for my needs. Hell when I had a friend help me out make this computer, I didn't know if it was going to be enough power or too much. Hasn't messed up on me and I've had it for 3 years now so I can't really complain about it but the amount of cables. Anyone that buys this PSU, have a big roomy case for it.
himmerz
Hi there i have a DFI LanParty UT RDX200 CF-DR Motherboard

I am posting as i have for ever experienced a problem of when i shut down my computer and the whole computer powers off the computer after a couple of seconds reboots.

I have tried changing my Power supply unit from a ColorSit psu running at 550w to a brand new Hipper Type R series 530W which didnt effect weather it decides to reboot or not.

The computer reboots around about 9 out of 10 times the other 1/10 times it turns off correctly. I have been on the DFI forums and they told me to change a pin and disconnect a Ethernet cable which i did then after i replied saying it didnt cure the problem they told me that the psu i had before the ColorSit wasnt a supported PSU....

is my new one also not supported?
or
is there any thing i can do which will cure the problem other than buying a new motherboard and PSU?

Thanks For you help
Karl
boywander
AFAIK (which isn't far) your new one should be alright. The ColorsIT is on the brands to avoid list linked at the top of this thread. wink.gif Guess maybe one of the Wake On x options in BIOS?

on t (and unrelated, himmerz, just a btw) - the 'multi-rail supplies' thread is very interesting, and clears up a couple other points, like load balancing. Linkage/Sticky/similar? :tooth:
himmerz
hi I am about to check the wake on options in the wake options in the bios, and i don't think its multi rail i don't really knew what that is, is it to do with how its mounted in the case? I will probs check that thread out latter when i have the time cos im about to go out.

Thanks for your reply :-)

Karl
himmerz
i couldn't seem to find that option in the bios after searching all areas of the bios, the DFI team said it should be the psu leaking voltages with the colorsit one, but i really doubt hipper would be like that cos there like expensive and a really good make.

Reply from there first reply doing instructions they told me:
I Have moved the JP5 to 2-3 and removed my lan cables however when i shut down about 1/3 times the problem is resolved but the other times it does still decide to restart just as you think its turned off.)

DFI Teams reply back (about the colorsit one)
That PSU could definately be part of the problem. It is not one that DFI recommends. The thing is that motherboards with an ATI chipset have low trigger values and if coupled with a power supply that could be leaking voltage this can cause the system to suddenly spring on. I would advise trying a recommended PSU from this list http://www.diy-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73137

I do like the dfi boards but they seem to be off putting if this is there reason and if there limiting to psu's surly they shouldn't release it like that, thats like releasing a operating system that can shut down properly, Are all there lanparty board like this?

Any more help i would greatly luv cos i hh8 having to turn my pc off at the wall or the power button i don't wanna damage any parts.

Thanks Karl
davidhammock200
Please post a proper sig, so we have some idea as to what we are dealing with! :cool:
himmerz
kk soz my bad, hav done so now
TRIaXOR
I've not had any issues with my Enermax Liberty 620W :sweat: and hopefully will never have unlike my old Colors(h)it 550W :sad:
himmerz
i will probs go core duo and avoid dfi when getting my next mobo then cos i luv my hiper psu it connects like a knife in hot butter to power connectors

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davidhammock200
For DFI mobos, consult the Official DFI-Street PSU Guide:
http://www.diy-street.com/forum/showpost.p...853&postcount=2

Updated 3-5-07

Dave's Short PSU List
(webstien)
I had to make this
[img]http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=62830[/img]
As you will see all PSU's recommended for highend systems are Single +12V Rail PSU's.

This has now become necessary for several reasons:

PSU manufactures are now assigning the rails on their multi-rail (3 or more +12V rails) PSU's in whatever fashion pleases them.

Motherboard manufacturers are now requiring additional power connectors, beyond the standard ATX & P4/EPS connectors.

Sometimes the interaction of these unique rail assignments & additional power connectors results in mobo/PSU incompatibility.

All of these problems are of course caused by the ever higher power demands of ever more powerful GPU's.

Most Dual +12V Rail PSU's are not effected as one rail "should always" be used exclusively to power the CPU via the P4/EPS connector, however Dual Rail PSU's that follow the specs can not power highend SLI systems.

Therefore all PSU's recommended for highend systems now need to be Single +12V Rail PSU's.

Please note that the Seasonic built Corsairs & Antecs (HE & Trio) are, regardless of advertising,
Single +12V Rail PSU's, in that there is no per-rail current limiting, meaning that any +12V rail can pull whatever +12V amperage is available. This is also true of the Seasonic M-12's.
The Corsairs are built to higher standards than the Antecs.


From PC P&C's Power Supply Myths Exposed!: http://www.pcpower.com/technology/myths/

8. ARE MULTIPLE 12-VOLT RAILS BETTER THAN A SINGLE 12-VOLT RAIL?

With all the hype about multiple 12-volt rails (ads claim that two rails is better than one, five is better than four, etc.), you’d think it was a better design. Unfortunately, it’s not!

Here are the facts: A large, single 12-volt rail (without a 240VA limit) can transfer 100% of the 12-volt output from the PSU to the computer, while a multi-rail 12-volt design has distribution losses of up to 30% of the power supply’s rating. Those losses occur because power literally gets “trapped” on under-utilized rails. For example, if the 12-volt rail that powers the CPU is rated for 17 amps and the CPU only uses 7A, the remaining 10A is unusable, since it is isolated from the rest of the system.

Since the maximum current from any one 12-volt rail of a multiple-rail PSU is limited to 20 amps (240VA / 12 volts = 20 amps), PCs with high-performance components that draw over 20 amps from the same rail are subject to over-current shutdowns. With power requirements for multiple processors and graphics cards continuing to grow, the multiple-rail design, with its 240VA limit per rail, is basically obsolete.

PC Power and Cooling is once again leading the industry. All of our power supplies now feature a large, single 12-volt rail. The design is favored by major processor and graphics companies, complies with EPS12V specs (the 240VA limit is not a requirement) and is approved by all major safety agencies such as UL and TUV.


From Silverstone: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-da750.htm

"With the knowledge that single +12V rail power is the next generation power supply, SilverStone Technology introduces Decathlon series, offering enthusiasts more choices with single rail power selections to handle their system."
PC P&C Turbo-Cool 1KW-SR [Single +12V Rail] (+12V@72A) (The Best of the Best of the Best!)
Specs: http://www.pcpower.com/products/viewproduc...&view=techspecs
$499: http://www.pcpower.com/products/viewproduc...KWSR&view=about

SILVERSTONE Olympia OP1000 1000W [Single +12V Rail]
Up to +12V@80A
Specs: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-op1000.htm
From: $335: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Silver...nline&scoring=p

Zippy PSL 6850P 850W [Single +12V Rail] (+12V@60A)
Specs: http://www.zippy.com.tw/P_PRODUCT_DETAIL.a...br=3&lv_rfnbr=2
Gaming Specs: http://www.zippy.com/P_product_detail.asp?...6850P(G1)-PCIE4
From $322: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid...nline&scoring=p

PC P&C Silencer 750W [Single +12V Rail] (My #1 Choice for Uber SLI/CF with any current GPU's!)
Up to +12V@60A
Specs: http://www.pcpower.com/products/viewproduc...&view=techspecs
$199: http://www.pcpower.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=S75QB

Silverstone Decathlon DA750 750W [Single +12V Rail]
Up to +12V@60A
Specs: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-da750.htm
From $178: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid...nline&scoring=p

SilverStone Olympia OP750 750W [Single +12V Rail]
Up to +12V@60A
Specs: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-op750.htm
From $149: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Silver...nline&scoring=p

Corsair HX 620W [Performs as a Single +12V Rail PSU.] (My #1 Choice for Highend SLI/CF!)
Up to +12V@50A, +5VSB@3A
Specs: http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/HX_power_supply.html
From $129: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid...nline&scoring=p
Can the Corsair 620HX Power Supply Handle 8800 GTX SLI: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/462/1/
I have personally tested this PSU & I highly recommend it for highend systems with all current video cards.

SilverStone Olympia OP650 650W [Single +12V Rail]
Up to +12V@54A
Specs: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-op650.htm
Fron $127: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Silver...nline&scoring=p

Antec TruePower Trio 650W [Performs as a Single +12V Rail PSU.]
Up to +12V@52A
Specs: http://www.antec.com/specs/TP3_650_spe.html
From $103: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Antec%...nline&scoring=r

Corsair HX 520W [Performs as a Single +12V Rail PSU.] (My #1 Choice for everything else!)
Up to +12V@40A, +5VSB@3A
Specs: http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/HX_power_supply.html
From $97: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Corsai...nline&scoring=p
I have personally tested this PSU & I highly recommend it for highend systems with any single video card.

Antec Neo HE 550W [Performs as a Single +12V Rail PSU.]
Up to +12V@42A
Specs: http://www.antec.com/specs/NeoHE550_spe.html
From $89: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Antec+...nline&scoring=p

Antec TruePower Trio 550W [Performs as a Single +12V Rail PSU.]
Up to +12V@42A
Specs: http://www.antec.com/specs/TP3_550_spe.html
From $80: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Antec%...nline&scoring=r

Antec Neo HE 500W [Performs as a Single +12V Rail PSU.]
Up to +12V@38A
Specs: http://www.antec.com/specs/NeoHE500_spe.html
From $74: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Antec+...nline&scoring=p

VANTEC ION 2 VAN-460N ATX12V/ EPS12V 460W[/B] [Single +12V Rail] (Perfect for Older (+5V CPU) Systems)
Output +3.3V@28A; +5V@30A; -5V@0.5A; +12V@30A; -12V@0.8A; +5VSB@3.0A
Specs: http://www.vantecusa.com/p_ion2460.html
From $60: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid...nline&scoring=p
This is my #1 Recommendation for older PC's where the CPU is powered by the +5V rail.

XCLIO GOODPOWER 500W[Dual +12V Rails](Best Bang for the Buck!)
Specs: http://www.xclio.com/htm/products-PSU-Goodpower500w.htm
$52: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817189005
I have personally tested this PSU & I highly recommend it for mid-range systems.

Enhance ENP-5150GH 500W [Dual +12V Rails]
Specs: http://www.enhanceusa.com/series.php?series_id=4#115
From $67: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid...nline&scoring=p
If the XCilo GoodPower 500W is not available, this is a good alternative for midrange systems.

XClio 450BL ATX 450W [Dual +12V Rails] (Best Bang for the Buck!)
Specs: http://www.xclio.com/htm/products-PSU-450BL.htm
$38: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817189003
Review: http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews...lio_450W_1.html
I have personally tested this PSU & I highly recommend it for low to mid-range systems.

Enhance ENP-5140GH 400W [Dual +12V Rails]
Specs: http://www.enhanceusa.com/series.php?series_id=4#43
From $54: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Enhanc...nline&scoring=p
If the XCilo 450W is not available, this is a good alternative for low to mid-range systems.

FSP Group (Fortron Source) BoosterX 3, 300W SLI Graphic Power Supply
Dedicated Multi-GPU Graphic Power Supply Unit
Specs: http://www.fspgroupusa.com/FSPNEWS/BOOSTERX3.asp
From $66: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid...nline&scoring=p
If you have a good PSU, but need more power for SLI,
just put this +12V (only) GPU PSU in an empty 5.25" bay!


Jason's (EOC) Reviews: http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/articles.php#13

jonnyGURU's Reviews: http://www.jonnyguru.com/reviews.php

Legit Reviews: http://www.legitreviews.com/articles/power_supply/

Nvidia SLI Certified: http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_buil...d_powersupplies

For more information: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/show...02&page=1&pp=20

Updated 3-5-07

Dave wink.gif smile.gif

For DFI mobos, consult the Official DFI-Street PSU Guide:
http://www.diy-street.com/forum/showpost.p...853&postcount=2
Astennu
What do You guy's think about the coolermaster PSU's.

I'm Now using a Coolermaster Realpower 550 Watt SLi. But i'm having some stability issues dont know if its the cpu. So i'm gonna install a corsair today to test is. But i'm looking for a new PSU with the new 8P PCI-E Connectors.

I love the coolermaster PSU's in power usage. They consume's less power then other psu's. It seems they have a high efficiency. But the website tells me the PSU ( Coolermaster Realpower Pro 850/1000 ) Have 6 12v Rails. And from the post above its seems to be a bad thing.

http://www.coolermaster-europe.com/index.p...l%20Power%20Pro

Would you guy's reccomand This PSU ? I want a PSU that can power 2xR600 cards and the new AM2+ mobo's with quadcore barcelona. ( My up-comming setup )
davidhammock200
(Astennu;709694)
What do You guy's think about the coolermaster PSU's.

I'm Now using a Coolermaster Realpower 550 Watt SLi. But i'm having some stability issues dont know if its the cpu. So i'm gonna install a corsair today to test is. But i'm looking for a new PSU with the new 8P PCI-E Connectors.

I love the coolermaster PSU's in power usage. They consume's less power then other psu's. It seems they have a high efficiency. But the website tells me the PSU ( Coolermaster Realpower Pro 850/1000 ) Have 6 12v Rails. And from the post above its seems to be a bad thing.

http://www.coolermaster-europe.com/index.p...l%20Power%20Pro

Would you guy's reccomand This PSU ? I want a PSU that can power 2xR600 cards and the new AM2+ mobo's with quadcore barcelona. ( My up-comming setup )
I do not recommend any Coolermaster PSU's & efficiency ratings are published.

I'm sorry to say that at this time we do not really know how much power a pair of R600's are going to pull,
therefore our only safe corse of action is to recommend the PC P&C 1KW-SR, as PC P&C guarantees its performance.

Good Luck,
Dave
Astennu
Double posted Sorry.
Astennu
Well i have tested The Corsair 620 Watt VS my Realpower. And The System is rock sollid now. Coolermaster had some cold boot problems.

But the Power usage from the System with the coolermaster PSU was 185 Watt and with the Corsair is used 210 Watt. Quite a difference.

I saw my Coolermaster Had a Peak of 18-20-10-A on the 12v rails. But it can only do 12-12-6 all the time.

For the corsair its 18-18-18 Peak so i guess it also had a Max of 12. So i guess i should be looking for a PSU with one Big rail and the 8P PCI-E connectors. I know the new Enermax Galaxy and Liberty's already have that new Connector. But they also have split 12V rails :'(

Can Anyone Tell me What the next image means:



620 VS 520 Watt both have 3x 12v @ 18a Max. But what is the continues output of theses 12v rails ? Corsair is talking about a combined power of 50A thats still 600 Watt.

And what are the bad things about the Coolermaster Realpower Pro PSU's of 850 and 1000 watt ? To weak 12v lines ? They are rated @ 6x18A Max output. The Corsair i have now had 3x18A Max. But the 850 watt coolermaster only has 230 watt more and 3 more 12v lines. + 12vx18A=216 Watt per line 216x6= 1296 Max for the 12v only. So the values they give are not to be trusted.

Same With the P&C 750 Watt. It has 60a 12v raild thats 60x12= 720 Watt for the 12v rail only. I think thats a peak value. But i dont think that coolermaster 850 can peak 1300 watt on the 12v only.

And then the next thing:

Triple 12V Rails provide independent reliable power to the CPU, video card and other components with a combined rating of 50A (40A on 520W) maximum! Advanced circuitry design that automatically enables power sharing between the triple +12V rails in an event of overload on any single +12V rail.


Is this even possible ? And if it is it seems logical other PSU's like the Galaxy and Realpower Pro would also have something like that.

And What do you guy's think about this new PSU: Galaxy DXX 1000 CrossFire

http://www.enermax.com.tw/english/product_...ay1.asp?PrID=70

It already has 2x8p PCI-E connector + 18P cpu connector and 4x6P PCI-E. The R600 will need 1x6P and 1x8P PCI-E. ( That was the latest info. Or ATi has changed the PCB and Power requirements to it can run on 2x6P )

But This PSU has 5x12V rails of 24A Rail 1 and 2 are combined to 408W (34A) And Rail 3-4-and 5 are combined to 492W(41A).
davidhammock200
The Corsair 620W has "up to" +12V@50A.

The PC P&C 750W Quad has "up to" +12V@60A.

The Silverstone OP 1000W has "up to" +12V@80A.

Yje Corsair is powering your PC, the Coolermaster is not, the Corsair is 80%+ efficient.
Astennu
True. My Coolermaster can power it but not @ cold Boot after 10 min it runs good. But yes i think the corsair is more stable. Could explane the power usage.

But What about those 3 rails of the Corsair. Is it possbile they are linked ? So can i see it as a Big 12v rail ?

Because in a other post you had a Quote from P&C that said that a singel 12v Rail in better then 4 weaker 12v lines.

And What are your thoughts about That Enermax Gallaxy DDX Crossfire PSU ?

Sorry For all the question. But i'm trying to figure out how i can identify a good PSU by myself and what is better to buy. Because P&C says more 12v Lines are Bad. Corsair says that they ave separate lines that can be linked if more power is needed. So i dont know what's good or bad. And whats true.

And i see ppl replacing Seasonic PSU's for OCZ and solving there problems but the Antec and Corsair PSU's are build by Seasonic :\ And the Corsair is highly reccomanded. They bought a wrong Seasonic PSU ?
davidhammock200
The Corsairs, Antec HE's & Trio's & the Seasonic M12's are in reality single +12V rail PSU's,
as there is no "per rail" current limiting.

These are all very good PSU's & are highly recommended.
Witchfire
Top of the heap, no doubt, goes to the PCP&C Silencer 750. I'd also not hesitate to recommend getting on of the refurbs of any of the PCP&C models listed HERE. $30 off a 750 Quad is nothing to sneeze at, and I have the utmost faith in PCP&C backing their products, refurbished or not.


For the budget boxes out there, I have had extremely good luck with Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430watt PSU. I've used 5 of them to date, between the wife's rig, and 4 customer builds. I have had no failures with any of them, and have even gone so far as to put my X1900XTX and a total of 4 HDDs in the wife's rig, and it still ran problem free. They usually go for about $40, but tend to go on sale (or w/ MIR) for about $25.


Some brands I've had bad experiences with:

Antec - I've had two fail on me in the past, both 550watt TruePowers.
FSP - I've seen three with pretty shoddy 20/24 pin connectors, where the pins would routinely push through the top of the connector when pushed down on the board.
POWMAX - Look up 'crap' in the dictionary, and a picture of any POWMAX PSU should be next to the definition.
Xplod_merged
Since last week I own a DFI Lanparty UT nf4 Ultra-D now and I guess I have to look out for a new PSU because my 480W Antec PSU doesn't have a native 24pins ATX connector which can only supply 22A max. on the 12Volt rail, a bit less I guess ohmy.gif

I've read a lot of interesting stuff over here and I'm still a bit confused,.. single rail... multiple rail 12Volt rails ... which is the best :confused:

I'm not planning to run SLI,... I will do some heavy overclocking on my Dual Core Opteron 165 for sure,.. currently already running 2700Mhz. 9x300.
Which PSU do ya'll recommend to work fine with my rig. ,.. is future safe, has sleeved and preferable non-modular cables,
It's because I don't know what to think about those modular cables,.. I've read some stuff about problems with those cables ..... I don't feel so confident about those, voltage drops, bad connections ... stuff like that :confused:
Please a bit of advise wink.gif
Raiderfan001
I have both the OCZ gameXstream 700 and the Corsair 620. Both of them are great PSUs. I would pick the Corsair over the OCZ though just because it does have modular cables and performs great. But either one of these would be good choices.
Xplod_merged
The CORSAIR HX Series 620W costs 149€ over here in belgium,.. should be like 193 US $
If I compare it with the OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply,.. that one cost only around 100€,.. 130$ US or so.
I guess I'll pick me the OCZ then.
Thasp
But then you have to ask yourself, is it worth the extra to have a well built Seasonic over a newer model Fortron? I think OCZs are still based on fortron.

I wanted to buy an FSP550 for myself. Tech specs always show 200 mV ripple on 12v rail to be within their spec, which irks me. http://www.nexths.it/v3/flypage.php?mv_arg=FSP550-80GLC

I guess the upside is they rate their stuff to 50c. It takes some work to find this, but some sparkle models have the temperature/power on the side.. usually 50w more than what they are specced for is 30c, and what they are specced for is at 50c. I'm no expert, but I think the spec is around 140-170 for ATX2 on 12v rail badunkadonk.
nQuirer
(Angry_Games;687853)
UPDATE: October 20th, 2006:

Enermax Liberty 620w PSU is no longer on our recommended list. Way too many issues with this power supply. DO NOT BUY TO USE ON DFI SYSTEMS!


I had a LANParty UT nF4 SLI-DR Venus with the Enermax Liberty 620W.
(BTW, I bought the board and PSU BEFORE 10/20/06)
Had it for over a year and didn't experience any issues at all.
Maybe I was indeed one of the lucky ones.
Who knows...
The point is, I now have three concerns:

1. What kinds of issues did this power supply cause with that board?
I sold the board to a friend of mine and it's running perfectly fine right now.
He's using his old Enermax EG565P-VE on it.
If there's anything he should be prepared for, please, do tell.

2. Is it safe to use that same PSU on another board?
That PSU is currently (no pun intended) powering an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe.
This board is also running great ATM, but I'm planning to sell this entire rig and finally start my QC build.
But if there's anything I should warn the buyer about, please let me know.

3. Is it safe to use that board with another PSU?
In the event that it isn't safe to use that same Enermax Liberty 620W with this Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe,
I'd like to know if I could just purchase another PSU and not have any problems.
Rather than having to buy a new PSU AND a new board.

I know this sounds crazy and I'm probably taking it overboard.
But I have OCPD, so I can get away with it. =P
And yes, I have read "The Post."

(Angry_Games;687899)
So please if you are needing DFI support, use the DFI section:

http://www.diy-street.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=49

All threads requiring support for DFI will be moved to there as we are no longer DFI Tech Support.


But I don't think this really falls under the category of "DFI support."
As I said, the DFI board is running perfectly fine with the EG565P-VE.
In fact, the only thing that really pertains to DFI is the question regarding the 10/20/06 post.
I mention this, because I know this is one of Angry_Games's pet peeves.
>>So, sorry if I messed up sir. /=
Anyway, if this post gets deleted, I'll know why... =P

Thanks again!
ReelFiles
Surprised that my PSU (SilverStone Strider ST60-F 600W) never made the list, nor any of the other SilverStone models, is there an issue I am overlooking? I know a few people who love these PSUs. In my opinion they aren't too expensive either.

edit:

These quality brands offer "known good" PSU's, ...
Class 1: These are the Best: PC Power & Cooling (All Turbo Cool & ULTRA-QUIET SILENCER 610W & 750W), Seasonic (S-12, S-12E+, M-12), Corsair, Silverstone (Zeus models ST56ZF, ST75ZF, and ST85ZF), Etasis & Zippy.


I need to read better rolleyes.gif sorry
Xplod_merged
(Raiderfan001;718201)
I have both the OCZ gameXstream 700 and the Corsair 620. Both of them are great PSUs. I would pick the Corsair over the OCZ though just because it does have modular cables and performs great. But either one of these would be good choices.


So, the Corsair PSU does perform well with DFI-boards .... right :confused:
And it does have a single 12Volt rail never the less the label on the PSU says 3x18A for the 620W, same for the 520W model.
I also see that the only difference between the 520W and 620W PSU the 6Amp. difference is on the 5Volt rail.
For which things is the 5Volt rail important :confused:
Will the 520W model be sufficient for my sytem and still be future ready :confused:

Price of the Corsair 520W is reasonable over here in belgium, 108€ (143$). The 620W model costs 41€ (54$) more.

signmeuptoo
Hey guys, hows it going! Over at Jonnyguru's site, Jonny tested the 700W game extreme of OCZ and everything was awesome with it except for one glaring problem: significantly high ripple as loads got closer to and up to rated full loads. The rails for the CPU and the miscellanious rail saw ripple as high as at least 150mV!!! That is NOT good. He then tested a fortron that is the same unit and ocz even sent him another to test and it did the same as well.

Ripples like that can be murder on regulation and more for the motherboard etcetera.

Any opinions here?

http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=35&page_num=2
red930
From the link provided...
In testing that unit, I found a good deal of ripple as well. When a brand new GameXstream was finally returned to me, I immediately plugged it in and found the same results as the first sample.

Fortunately, it is very unlikely any of us will have one of these power supplies at or above 400W, at least for any considerable period of time, but this high ripple measurement will be taken into consideration when calculating the performance score.


My BOLD for emphasis!

Could you please quantify a good deal of ripple in a technical measurement?

So the bottom line is that the ripple measured at normal output isn't a problem.

You want as little ripple as possible but obviously it's not the only measure of a quality PSU.

See my sig for what I've been running for over a year now.
General Septem
Will my PowerStream 520 power an 8800GTS?
signmeuptoo
ExRoadie, you make it sound like I didn't read his review, why then am I referring to it.

Sure, 400 watts and less would be more likely the norm, but if that, why own that high a power supply, unless you are trying to increase service life? The bottom line is that it went above acceptable spec slightly when driven hard enough and most of the other higher end supplies have not done so, so it IS something to be aware of. You are welcome to say: "I have smoked, jumped from airplanes, walked on railroad tracks all my life and nothing ever happened!" But that doesn't make those things safe. It is harder on you electronics to have ripple. Ripple is always there, all that can be done is to mitigate it, but this OEM doesn't do that as well from my readings thus far. The ripple will wear out regulation on your motherboard all that much sooner, it's a law of averages issue.

It is a fabulous supply though.
signmeuptoo
Could you all consider adding the Enermax Infiniti to the approved list. It is a fantastic supply with low low ripple, super stable voltages, quiet, good looks and quality build, SLI/Crossfire, and very temperature tolerant (40 d C rated).

Here are two reviews of it:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=102
(That is MY ACTUAL supply that was tested there)

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html...W50aHVzaWFzdA==

http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/power-s...nfiniti-720w/1/

Originally I was going to buy a refurbished PCP&C Silencer Quad 750 but I was "talked" out of it, heh. Yes, a VERY good supply indeed, but what I did get, here, is awesome too.

There has been one person on newegg complaining about issues with modern breakers on new constructions homes, but Enermax says they have tested and don't see the problem, so I don't know where the issue has landed. The guy is complaining about Arc Fault protection tripping from this supply, but I have not seen any other comments on it and I don't have that at this house, so I cannot test for it.

The only drawbacks on this supply are:

There are 3 PCI-Express connectors, but just one is 6/8 pin, the other two are 6 pin.

The cabling is shorter than it should be.

The power cable is too short.

The sleeving isn't all the way.

Natrually, I am not pushing this supply hard, but it WAS tested really hard, so...

It has some cool features such as a signal LED and beeper, fan cool down power off mode, brushed metal case, clear fan that is 135mm and very quiet, carefully labeled wires for safety, other things as well.

Ripple was less than 50mV at hard full+ load on the +12VDC rails which is quite good.

In a hot box the rails hardly budged (though he had to use cable extensions, so readings were affected).

I don't know what it is about the Liberty, and yeah, I just got this, but so far I am loving it.
mscheaf
As someone who is currently shopping for a new psu, this is the most useful and informative thread i have ever seen. Keep up the great work. I am new to this site, but i read everyday now and I love it!
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