Anyone want to try this:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...Flanguage_tools
Comments please...
Gipse

I read an article about Intel IHS removal before... And the person pulled the die off 2 or 3 chips while trying to do it... Never did it properly either... The pics didn't work and something about carpet blades... The translation left me more confused than I was before I started reading it

Without clicking the linky I can say NO.

I thought that Intel soldered their IHS'. No more using a bit of thermal paste and adhesive to attach the IHS. AMD seems to be doing the same thing with the AM2 from reading XS. Over there some guy trying to remove the IHS of a FX62, ripped the cpu die off with the IHS! Ruined a perfectly good and expensive cpu. Pretty much a waste of money IMO for very little cooling return. I know I'll be contradicted on that one, but I just don't see removing the IHS. Go to phase cooling if you want to clock that hard.

The Google translation is pretty pathetic. The original German version is actually very thorough and well photographed as well. Provided that there would be a noticeable improvement in performance; this is the way to go.

@Gipse:
Grüße nach Hannover

This is clearly stated in the How To; even pretty obvious in the translated version.

I read it on some forum.

They took a vice and placed the chip in it, and heated the top till the bottom popped off..

Half the times the core comes off with the IHS.. bye bye expensive chip. If I had a Conroe, I wouldn't do it for sure. Not worth it for the risks involved IMO.

Some guys over at XS have removed the IHS on their Core 2's. They did was cut the adhesive around the edges of the IHS, then wedged a razorblade in each corner, so that you can feel resistance, like youre bending the IHS up at each corner. You heat the IHS for a breif second and try to pop it off... if its not coming off with minimal effort, heat it some more.

Some guy suspendedhis using the razorblades using some bricks so that the IHS was pointing down and the contacts were up, heated the IHS, and it just popped off. It works, you can get it off, you just have to be more careful. There are also some electronic bits real close to the adhesive, so you have to be careful when youre cutting the adhesive.

If the IHS is soldered you won't get nearly as much performance gain from removing it than if it were simply pasted on. If a regular IHS removal got you five degrees, this might give you one or two. The failure rate of removing a soldered IHS is around 90%.

If you're into it, go ahead, but I wouldn't do it.

Does anyone know if AMD soldered any of their Socket 939 IHSs on?

General Septem yes the fx65 for sure. and i think any of the newert s939 chips.

Jeez, I was looking to pop off the ihs myself, but the risk of failure is much greater than when I popped off my amd chips. So, I guess I will go ahead and continue on the lapping.

Enough said.

No english, no listen. :/

This is hard enough to do without following a guide written in german. I don't suggest doing this mod.

Get back to school and learn something useful : The "good old Europe" German Language:eek2:

Pff, German has evolved, if you want a good OLD European language Icelandic is the way too go :cool: (We can read texts that are over 500 years old, and not to mention read some foreign texts with little difficulties).

On topic, a 90% failure rate is a big no no unless you crap cash.

Iceland isn't really part of Europe (oficially maybe). Even the UK is separated; physically and culturally. The "Old" (Continental) Europe is the area of Germany, Austria, Italy, France, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Luxembourg, Denmark, Holland, etc (not the eastern countries recently added to the EU).

Icelandic would be considered a Scandinavian language. It is true that it hasn't really changed in half a millenium (primarily words added for newly developed things) but only a small population speaks it.

The most widely used European languages would be French, German and Spanish. Since Germany is the source of many technological advances, in science and engineering, German is an excellent language to learn.

Of all the German language reforms the "worst" one has occurred over the past 60 yrs; the Anglification of the language to "Denglisch" (Deutsch-Englisch or German-English) as a result of the US occupation of Germany (very pronounced in the last 20 yrs).

End Rant:

End Off-Topic:

The reason why the C2D IHS removal failure rate is so high is that people don't realize that it's soldered on and assume there's just some TIM.

radodrill
Are you from Germany or did you spend some time here? True words about the German language and the bad influence of mixing several languages!
Does anybody know what is meant when I say Coke Light?!?
Back to the guide... I am really impressed how he did the IHS removal; the benefits of doing that is a different story;)
Gipse

My mother was born in Eschersheim just outside of Frankfurt A/M. I've actually been in the motherland quite a few times (usually visit my grandparents for about a month every summer) and speak fluent German as well (recently also acquired citizenship).
It's just a real shame how our language is being butchered these days. Among other things it drives me crazy hearing people over here mention a German word and completely screw up the pronunciation.

Yes I've heard of Coca-Cola Light but the "Light" doesn't fit the meaning at all; I don't even drink the Diet stuff anyways (tastes terrible).


The author of the Guide sure went through great detail in removing the IHS. I'm not sure that significant performance gains can be achieved since it was soldered on; but some people would do anything to get 2C lower temps.


Viele Grüße und Fröhliches Weinachten

Anyone know if I can know for certain my Opty 165 will be just TIMed on?

I have no problem with the German language. No way in hell I'd cut into a $310 CPU based on generic translated instructions though.. would you?

Unless you can read german, it's a bad idea. This kind of mod is hard enough as it is, with instructions in your own language, and I've read that it's harder to do this on core 2 duos than on socket 939 CPUs.

Yes, but it is.

Hmm, hate to break it to you, but English and Icelandic are both germanic languages. And both are european. I'm not trying put shame to the german language if you thought so, I just wanted that little tidbit of info out there. :cool:

I'm not trying to bash you or the Icelandic language the point I was initially making is that in a global perspective German is a more useful language to learn than Icelandic because it is much more widely used throughout the world.

I'm totally aware that many of today's languages have common roots and are also inter-related. I was merely stating that Culturally Iceland is more Scandinavian than European (due to the Vikings); and as such IMO it is not appropriate to classify Icelandic as a European language (classifying it as Germanic would be correct:nod: ).
The referral to an "OLD European language" was geared toward languages from the heart of mainland Europe (now often referred to as "Old Europe" since the former soviet countries are now in the EU).

Edit: sorry, Double post

ubersetzen

Übersetzen? Was denn?

p.s. spelled with an ü (or ue); not u

Why do I even say anything

I wonder if we could possibly have a mod split this into another thread entitled "stupid useless thread discussing the size of the e-penis of everyone's respective languages".

Of course, only in Italian can you say: andate tutti a 'fanculo. :nod:

Nice discussion caused by 1simple comment :angel:
I dont care about using english words and terms in german language. How would you explain OCing in German ???

Frohe Weihnachten

It's always fascinating what can come up in a conversation.:cool:
IMO how sensitive a person is to the purity of his language depends on which generation he's from and what he grew up with at home.

Ganz einfach; Übertakten

Fröhliches Weihnachten, und ein gesegnetes neues Jahr

and FSB? VorderSeitenBus?
RAM? Speicher auf den Zufällig zugegriffen wird ?

Souns kinda stupid :tooth:

What country you from? What aint no country I ever heard of. Do they speak english in what?......lol

RAM == Arbeitsspeicher
HDD == Festplatte
MB == Hauptplatine
etc.


Once you know the Correct terminology it makes sense:cool: Most people just never learned it and only reference the English words.

:confused:

In many countries English is taught in the schools; however, if you try to have a conversation W/ them you realize that they haven't really learned it at all.

Ummm....yeah I think this is fairly off-topic now.

And definitely not recommended to try and remove one of these things unless you do indeed "crap cash".