Angry_Games
Jun 8 2006, 10:24 PM
Ok, so someone in the Overclocking Database was talking about cutting fan holes, and I happened to remember that i had some fantastic templates that you can print out and use.
The guy that cuts my cases has been working with metals for 30+ years and he uses these templates that I found somewhere a couple years ago:
http://www.angrygames.com/files/fanhole_templates.zip
60mm
80mm
92mm
120mm
In the same folder on my hdd was this other PDF from Maximum PC about how to sleeve your psu wires:
http://www.angrygames.com/files/wiresleeve.zip
I can vouch for the fan hole templates...but I never tried the psu wiresleeving but it looks pretty righteous.
addition:
All-In-One Stop Shop for all your PSU Sleeving/cabling/wiring/modding needs!
Let me know as always what you guys think!
PS: if you have something excellent to add, just let me know in a post or pm, and we'll get it uploaded/linked here in this first post!
NForcer
Jun 8 2006, 11:07 PM
I m about to sleeve my psu tommorrow morning, the guide you posted makes it look easy!
kiikkuja
Jun 8 2006, 11:07 PM
That wiresleeving guide was useful. I didn't know you can unplug the wires from molex...maybe i'll try sleeving again some time. Last time i tried it the end result was really disappointing but with this knowledge it may work!
NForcer
Jun 8 2006, 11:08 PM
it fails to mention that to do it right you need a molex remover tool. makes it ten times easier.
Angry_Games
Jun 9 2006, 08:51 AM
it also fails to mention that removing the power pins from the molex connector can sometimes mean they never quite install back into the molex connector as securely as they did coming out of the factory...
arklab
Jun 9 2006, 09:20 AM
Nice additions to a websight thats quickly becoming an all-in-one stop for how-to's on all DFI boards!
I'm starting to see customizing PSU cable length as a better alternative to modular cables.
This goes a little further than just sleeving, and requires replacement metal tips.
The fan conector type is really tiny, but all tip types are available online.
There is a set of four tools for removing and replaceing these as well - the one I got was made under the Sunbeamtech name, but the same thing is sold under other brand names.
You can even mod the 24 pin power connector - although that one gives me nightmares! Cross just two wires and guess what happens.
Are you accepting requests for other guides?
I have a couple of ideas I don't think have been covered yet, at least not in one place.
Many thanks for what you've already done.
It really helps!
Angry_Games
Jun 9 2006, 12:59 PM
Angry_Games
Jun 9 2006, 01:01 PM
Are you accepting requests for other guides?
I have a couple of ideas I don't think have been covered yet, at least not in one place.
sure, i suppose I should make a thread in teh Tutorials section about this one of these days
AsAs1n8eR
Jun 11 2006, 11:26 AM
The fanhole templates are gerat.I just needed one of thoose 80mm templates to make a ram cooler.Thnx a lot Angry.
miggs78
Jun 11 2006, 11:55 AM
hey angry those fan holes templates are very useful. I'm very sorry to say, its not that I do not appreciate ur effort, its just that those sleeving guides aren't that good. We need something from A to Z, what I mean is from taking off the molex connectors, to properly sleeving, to applying heatshrink tubing, we need something a little better with more touches.
But thanks for ur effort, its appreciated.

:nod: lol.
Yeah and I wouldn't mind a good cable sleeving guide, as I think someone here is volunteering to do. thats nice of them
Cya around Angry aka Happy lol maybe Sad
Angry_Games
Jun 11 2006, 02:50 PM
that sleeving guide is just something i downloaded somewhere one day and I don't even remember where
if someone wants to make a full psu sleeving tutorial, then i would say go for it.
it would be best if you had a video (DV) cam and could do it then just send me the raw footage or even better, edit it yourself and use the DFI-Street logos and music etc like the other Street vids have.
or you could fly to Boise and bring the equipment and I'll film it and edit it etc lol
miggs78
Jun 11 2006, 09:07 PM
(Happy_Games)
that sleeving guide is just something i downloaded somewhere one day and I don't even remember where
if someone wants to make a full psu sleeving tutorial, then i would say go for it.
it would be best if you had a video (DV) cam and could do it then just send me the raw footage or even better, edit it yourself and use the DFI-Street logos and music etc like the other Street vids have.
or you could fly to Boise and bring the equipment and I'll film it and edit it etc lol
lol too many choices lol. Cool down Happy, or are you ready for choices all day

, j/k bro.
Yup, I would luv that too, something live like that would be so awesome.
Thanks Happy, Cya around
WoL-Shiver
Jun 13 2006, 11:51 PM
what is the differance between outlet and inlet, they are the same in measurements...i think.
Angry_Games
Jun 14 2006, 08:31 AM
fan holes are fan holes man
they are the same sizes
Eeyore
Jul 7 2006, 09:32 AM
Fan hole sizes are not necessarily the same size or shape. Some fan manufacturers recommend round holes (of a certain size) for both intake and exhaust, some recommend an octagonal pattern for both intake/exhaust and, at least one I know, uses a round hole or an octagonal depending on whether the fan is being used for intake or exhaust. The higher the output of the fan the more critical the cutout. An incorrect hole size can reduce total flow, back pressure, smoothness of flow and amount of fan noise. Of course with the precision that I cut my fan holes it really doesn't make much difference; nibbling tools and large files don't allow fine work.
Eeyore
johndoe25
Jul 13 2006, 06:33 PM
There are several guides for sleeving your PSU, just Google it. Here are a few that I have found.
http://www.bytesector.com/data/bs-article.asp?ID=295 ,
http://www.ocmodshop.com/default.aspx?a=174 ,
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/guides/cabl...ing/index.shtml ,
http://www.overclock.net/overclock.php?fil...eving-guide.htm ,
http://www.overclockers.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=10554 . I also found a little guide to round IDE cables, I know, you can buy rounded ones already, but I rounded the cable for my X-Fi Live Drive(which is a forty pin/wire cable)
http://www.overclock.net/case-mods-general...able-guide.html. Before anyone starts to rip their PS out & have at it, read a few of the guides to get a general feel for it. Also I would suggest using Happy's link to SVC & buy a set of molex removers. Using them will take a little getting use to though, but will make things a little easier. And while at SVC buy your sleeving & heatshrink there also.
t_ski
Aug 18 2006, 08:59 PM
Man, those fan-hole templates are sweet! I could have used one earlier today, but it turned out well anyway. I think I will try these when I mod the top of my case for my rad (hopefully Monday).
And, on the subject of PSU sleeving, here's a guide I wrote on sleeving a fan:
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/cooling/141
Same idea, you just need to apply the techniques to a PSU instead.
Prospector
Sep 27 2006, 03:07 PM
Iv'e done the wire sleeving before and one thing I found is that if the pins end up a little loose after you finish use a hot glue gun a drop in each hole where the pin enters the molex and it stays nice and tight.
sswilson
Sep 29 2006, 02:58 PM
Thanks tons for the templates.
Just bought a kit w/ 1 240 + 1 120 rad and I'm trying like heck to figure out how I'm going to fit both of them into my old lian-li. (The fact that the older lian-li's use 80mm fans isn't helping much either.........).
I'm not even sure I can mount the smaller one on the back of the case so I'm thinking of using some round aluminum spacers (normally used in conjuction with clamps for keeping wire bundles apart) to raise it off of the top of my case over the psu with the double rad inside under the forward end of the case.....
Gonna go get me some cuttin tools tomorrow and see if I need to order a new case come monday.......
t_ski
Sep 29 2006, 03:55 PM
With the single 120mm you could always go with a radbox, or do some modding and mount it inside thr front panel (swapping out the dual 80's for a single 120mm).
sswilson
Sep 30 2006, 10:45 AM
do some modding and mount it inside thr front panel (swapping out the dual 80's for a single 120mm).
Thanks for the suggestion.... I considered doing something like that (I was looking more at the 3 front 3 1/2 bays) but this is my first major case mod and I'm not sure my skills are quite up to doing it any justice....
One of my main concerns is to keep as much of the original airflow dynamics the same. This case has been rock solid for me in that department. With that in mind I'm a little leery of messing with the original fan setup.
I've decided to put the single inside the top/front and mount the larger one outside top / rear with the tubes going directly through the top. (I'm also thinking that the most benefit from outside ambient air cooling would come from the larger rad).
This will allow for minimal modding of the case itself, and if I decide to move to a different case I can just throw a 120mm fan over the hole I made for the single and return it to non water cooling duties.....
Gonna start cutting and drilling tonight.......
Timmay_merged
Nov 19 2006, 05:35 PM
I don't know if this has been covered in this thread, but does anyone have a link to where I can get a template for a 360 Rad?
t_ski
Nov 19 2006, 06:50 PM
They have templates for the AC Ryan RadGrillz, but you have to be careful about how they print out. For some reason they are tricky to get printed out to the full size. Probably just Adobe Acrobat messing up, but I had one printed professionally, tried doing one myself, and read where another member here tried it, too, and I think all of them came out small.
What I ended up doing was using a small metal rule called a scale, took very acurate measurements, and transferred all of them directly to the case, If you measure carefully and take your time, you should have decent results.
Praz
Nov 19 2006, 07:03 PM
Here's a link for a Black Ice Pro II template. Scroll down to "site stuff". Print it out twice and overlay one on top of the other.
Radiator Template
Timmay_merged
Nov 19 2006, 11:45 PM
Thanks for the link mate... +1 Rep from me.
AnUnknownSource
Mar 12 2007, 03:05 AM
Just to add my two cents, I've done sleeving without the tools for years now, using a needle or my favorite tool that came with my Nokia N70 replacement cover that's designed to get the old cover off.
As far as the molex pins never fitting as securely once you've removed them, bend the small metal pieces that secure the pins in the connector back out so they secure the pin. The only trouble I've had is when I bend them too far and they break :-) I just don't know my own strength.
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