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9800gtx From Asus Evaluated |
 Apr 4 2008, 02:18 AM
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 Will Fold 4 Food  Posts: 6,106 Joined: 10-May 04 From: Franklin, TN Member No.: 10,039  |
The review can be found at: http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_en9800gtx/
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Apr 7 2008, 05:20 AM
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Member Posts: 79 Joined: 16-June 07 Member No.: 22,009 |
It seems a bit pushing it to say 'cons: none' since I personally can't help but notice that it doesn't have dx10.1(/shader4.1) support, and that it probably isn't the best idea to now spend 300 on a card that's just a tweaked soon-to-be-replaced generation.
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Apr 7 2008, 09:40 AM
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 OCC Boss Posts: 27,159 Joined: 27-April 02 From: Canada Member No.: 521 |
QUOTE (Wwhat @ Apr 7 2008, 06:20 AM)  It seems a bit pushing it to say 'cons: none' since I personally can't help but notice that it doesn't have dx10.1(/shader4.1) support, and that it probably isn't the best idea to now spend 300 on a card that's just a tweaked soon-to-be-replaced generation. Its kinda of hard to put that as a con when the card is not designed for that. Its like saying well I don't like this Mustang because it doesn't run on propane  Once the new 9900's come out hopefully that will add what current cards lack time will tell. -------------------- Main Rig
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Apr 7 2008, 09:56 AM
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does any card support 10.1 and 4.1
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Apr 7 2008, 10:24 AM
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 e = MC Hammer Posts: 5,897 Joined: 21-February 04 From: Southampton, UK Member No.: 8,605 |
All the ATI HD 3xxx series cards support DX 10.1 / Shader model 4.1.
How relevant DX 10.1 support is at the moment is debatable. This post has been edited by jammin: Apr 7 2008, 10:27 AM --------------------   Recommended Power Supplies List E8400 @ 3.6GHz - DFI Blood Iron P35-T2RL - 4GB Patriot Viper Fin - HD 4850 512MB - X-Fi Xtreme Music |
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Apr 7 2008, 02:44 PM
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 lvl Infinite Psychopath Posts: 4,902 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Mount Prospect Member No.: 10,119 |
Far as I know, which isn't much, the 9800GTX's are slightly beefed up 8800 GTS's. A few more capacitors and it is clocked higher.. Maybe a few revisions made to the PCB or core design? I dunnue..
So stepping up from a lower card may be a good idea, but flat out paying the full price for one, I just can't see... 
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Apr 7 2008, 03:21 PM
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Certified Geek Posts: 1,171 Joined: 29-September 06 Member No.: 18,667 |
well i have a 2900 pro im thinking of getting a 3870 or just wait for the new cards to come out
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Apr 10 2008, 09:33 AM
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There really is a con:
At very high resolutions/AA/AF you have lower fps with the 9800gtx in some games than with the cheaper and older 8800GTX. That is because the 9800gtx only has a 256bit memory bus instead of the 384bit of the 8800gtx. http://www.ht4u.net/reviews/2008/nvidia_ge...gtx/index25.php |
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Apr 10 2008, 09:57 AM
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OCC Boss Posts: 27,159 Joined: 27-April 02 From: Canada Member No.: 521 |
QUOTE (rwm @ Apr 10 2008, 10:33 AM) There really is a con: At very high resolutions/AA/AF you have lower fps with the 9800gtx in some games than with the cheaper and older 8800GTX. That is because the 9800gtx only has a 256bit memory bus instead of the 384bit of the 8800gtx. http://www.ht4u.net/reviews/2008/nvidia_ge...gtx/index25.php Actually if you take the time to look you will find the 9800GTX cheaper then the 8800GTX. Second we do not use a timedemo for Call of Duty 4 Third we are using Vista not XP like you linked too. At 1920 the 9800 lost by 7 frames for a cheaper and newer style card thats not to bad in COD4. Now if you look at Bioshock the 9800 beat the 8800GTX by 8 frames at 1920. Now if you look at all of our games that we tested on the 9800 only lost three times at 1920 one of those by 1 frame. So no I do not agree with you that its a con. As for the site that you linked to using bioshock's intro and claiming over 200 frames give me a break. 150 frames at 1920 come on.................... I am all for sharing opinions and comments but next time link to something I can understand and doesn't throw consumers for a loop. 
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Apr 10 2008, 05:25 PM
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 The more i teach the dumber i get! Posts: 7,394 Joined: 10-August 03 Member No.: 5,490 |
The intro is not nearly as gpu intensive as the game. i see spikes well above 200 in that section.
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Apr 11 2008, 04:57 AM
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QUOTE (bosco @ Apr 10 2008, 09:57 AM) Actually if you take the time to look you will find the 9800GTX cheaper then the 8800GTX. I already did: The cheapest 8800gtx I find is a XFX GeForce 8800 GTX 600M Extreme, 768MB GDDR3 for 205,90€. http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?fs=8800gtx...amp;y=0&in= And the cheapest 9800gtx I find is a Zotac GeForce 9800 GTX, 512MB GDDR3 for 233,61€. http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?fs=9800gtx...amp;y=0&in= QUOTE (bosco @ Apr 10 2008, 09:57 AM) Second we do not use a timedemo for Call of Duty 4 Third we are using Vista not XP like you linked too. And this contradicts the fact of the lower memory bus speed and its consequences in which way? QUOTE (bosco @ Apr 10 2008, 09:57 AM) At 1920 the 9800 lost by 7 frames for a cheaper and newer style card thats not to bad in COD4. Now if you look at Bioshock the 9800 beat the 8800GTX by 8 frames at 1920. Now if you look at all of our games that we tested on the 9800 only lost three times at 1920 one of those by 1 frame. That is why I wrote: "At very high resolutions/AA/AF you have lower fps with the 9800gtx in some games than with the cheaper and older 8800GTX." QUOTE (bosco @ Apr 10 2008, 09:57 AM) So no I do not agree with you that its a con. You are wrong, at very high resolutions/AA/AF in some games the lower memory bus speed is a con. QUOTE (bosco @ Apr 10 2008, 09:57 AM) As for the site that you linked to using bioshock's intro and claiming over 200 frames give me a break. 150 frames at 1920 come on.................... The intro is not that gpu intensive as the game and the used system(Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 and Win XP) is pretty fast. QUOTE (bosco @ Apr 10 2008, 09:57 AM) I am all for sharing opinions and comments but next time link to something I can understand and doesn't throw consumers for a loop. What is so difficult to understand the graph? I only posted another benchmark to show that others also got such results and not only ccokeman/overclockersclub.com. This post has been edited by rwm: Apr 11 2008, 05:03 AM |
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Apr 11 2008, 05:02 AM
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 Day of the Testicle Posts: 7,303 Joined: 10-June 04 From: Liverpool, UK Member No.: 10,582 |
QUOTE (rwm @ Apr 11 2008, 01:57 PM) I already did: The cheapest 8800gtx I find is a XFX GeForce 8800 GTX 600M Extreme, 768MB GDDR3 for 205,90€. http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?fs=8800gtx...amp;y=0&in= And the cheapest 9800gtx I find is a Zotac GeForce 9800 GTX, 512MB GDDR3 for 233,61€. http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?fs=9800gtx...amp;y=0&in= Well at newegg.com (USA based ... same as site), the 8800GTX is as cheap as $339.99, while the 9800GTX is as cheap as $299.99. Newegg is a reliable source in my opinion, as it tends to carry larger stocks of a wide variety of items and doesn't specialise solely on gmaing items or similar. --------------------  :: X-Fi Xtreme Music [hardnrg Hotrodded] :: 40" Samsung A686 :: Yamaha AX-300 :: :: Little Dot MK III Valve Amp :: Sennheiser HD 595 :: Dell Studio 17 :: Tannoy M3 :: :: For Everything, A Reason :: |
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