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#1 Venom1956

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:09 AM

Hey all I use my PC for everything. Movies, Music and some gaming.

I used to have a small 50 watt 2.1 system from years ago. Then I upgraded to the Logitech 2.1 Z623 loved em! shook my house great for movies, games, music was so so. Then I guess the amp burned out, causing the sub to fail, replacements would've taken 9 weeks. So I got a refund and purchases the Corsair SP-2500s which I am using now. I am hesitant of getting another set I've read numerous articles of the under powered amp burning out.

They are pretty good sound great but I have to crank the volume on them 95% power and it just seems like the 8" sub is working waaaaaaaaaay to hard during music. Now I've been told if I get and amplified sound card such as the Xonar DX or D1 that will greatly increase the quality of the SP-2500s output and won't have to have the volume cranked and help the sub performance. Can anyone here verify this? These were supposed to be superior to the Z623 in everyway...

I'd like to get a system with a 10" sub and looked at the Logitech Z906 now the old Logitech Z-5500 are back on their website? Which I've always read are superior to the Z906 in everyway. Or would I have better luck just assembling a system myself? with a receiver a powered sub and 2 speakers?

Really hope I can figure this out soon. I just want great 2.1 sound (room is to small for 5.1) I'd like separate inputs to the sub and the speakers so I can fiddle each of them. I'm guessing I'll need a new soundcard rather then just my 5.1 onboard. I don't wanna have to worry about my system burning itself out from working to hard.

Thank you.

Edited by Venom1956, 16 April 2012 - 11:16 AM.


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

How much would you be willing to spend?

You could get a powered sub with some tower/bookshelf speakers to match.

Polk psw10 - down from $250 to $120 and there is a current $30 off promo

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16882290034

Polk monitor 50 - To match the sub, down from $200 to $120 also with a $40 off bonus right now.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16882290205

Edit: $170 with free shipping for q Danny nice 2.1 set up. What more could you want?

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 11:26 PM

How much would you be willing to spend?

You could get a powered sub with some tower/bookshelf speakers to match.

Polk psw10 - down from $250 to $120 and there is a current $30 off promo

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16882290034

Polk monitor 50 - To match the sub, down from $200 to $120 also with a $40 off bonus right now.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16882290205

Edit: $170 with free shipping for q Danny nice 2.1 set up. What more could you want?


Both these setups interest me. So the Polk is a quite good sounding system?

I am really getting burnt out and frustrated with trying to find a decent setup that works. I'm sick of random crackling audio and lack of bass or whatever. I am going to talk to Corsair tomorrow. If I can get a new set at no charge I am returning them and going with the Polk system... What sort of receiver would you recommend? Pardon my ignorance but what do you mean q Danny 2.1 setup?

Should I upgrade me sound as well? Will the on board have issues with this?

Those AV40s look very nice also. I wonder how they would sound with the Polk sub helping them out.

I am looking at these for a setup:

SUBS

PSW110 BLACK
http://www.newegg.co...pk=PSW110 BLACK

or

PSW505
http://www.newegg.co...0130&Tpk=PSW505

SPEAKERS

Polk Audio Monitor50 Series II
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16882290204

or possibly these?

Polk Audio Monitor40 Series II
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16882290202



I'd rather have a bit more power then the 50 watt sub. I think the black speakers will look better then the cherry in my computer room... =( I do like the cherry though.

Edited by Venom1956, 27 April 2012 - 12:23 AM.


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Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:41 AM

PC sound card is not going to turn your subwoofer into a ghetto machine
personally, I love 8" subs, perfect for me.

what you want is a powered subwoofer like the polk you were linked to
however, I dont know much about the corsair unit you have but the specs seem to say 125wattsRMS just for the sub, which is tons

just curious
how do you get sound to your little speakers?
I would like to know your PC specs, specifically, if you plug your speakers directly into the motherboard sound out on the back,
what model motherboard is this, and how old is it?

remember, if you play crappy bit rate MP3s on a crappy onboard sound chip from 8 years ago, no matter what speakers you have - its going to sound crappy

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 03:24 AM

Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 nough said!


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Posted 28 April 2012 - 11:30 AM

PC sound card is not going to turn your subwoofer into a ghetto machine
personally, I love 8" subs, perfect for me.

what you want is a powered subwoofer like the polk you were linked to
however, I dont know much about the corsair unit you have but the specs seem to say 125wattsRMS just for the sub, which is tons

just curious
how do you get sound to your little speakers?
I would like to know your PC specs, specifically, if you plug your speakers directly into the motherboard sound out on the back,
what model motherboard is this, and how old is it?

remember, if you play crappy bit rate MP3s on a crappy onboard sound chip from 8 years ago, no matter what speakers you have - its going to sound crappy


Ha I am not looking for super crazy bass I am just looking for enough bass so my sub doesn't seem to have to work so hard. I've read multiple posts about the Corsair SP2500 needing an amplified sound card for its input for best sound quality. I had the bass on my Z-623s down under 25% because of the amount of rumble they produced just from the mobo sound! My ultra old 70watt Altec Lansing sounded fine until I noticed the sub popping from low freq bass. My Corsair's bass is actually cranked up near the 'redline' so I'd say approx 85 - 90% and it still sounds weak and hollow. Most of my music is @ 320kps but I have stuff that is lower. I'm not sure if my SP2500s could have a defect or possibly the control pod isn't working right? I just wish I would've know an amped card was 'required' for the SP2500s too.

This is my computer:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16883103371

It doesn't have alot of PCIe ports so I figured I'd pay some extra and get an amplified PCI sound card so I could keep my PCIe ports free for USB 3.0 inputs or a bigger graphics card.

I looked at the Klipsh Pro media 2.1 and they sounded quite nice! at best buy. I was thinking of grabbing them to try out. but there over all power kind of worries me I don't wanna burn them out a year down the road like my Logitechs or somthing.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 04:45 PM

Were you still looking into the Polk's and looking for a receiver?
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:58 AM

Were you still looking into the Polk's and looking for a receiver?



Yes. I'm not in any rush. My SP2500s still work and I really don't wanna find myself in the same position in a few months. So I am taking my time deciding.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:26 PM

Yes. I'm not in any rush. My SP2500s still work and I really don't wanna find myself in the same position in a few months. So I am taking my time deciding.


What is your budget for the receiver and the other for speakers?
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:47 PM

Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 nough said!


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My thought exactly. That's what I've used for years, no issues, and fantastic speakers and sub. I can't turn the main volume knob up more than a 1/4 turn, stuff would rattle off the table, yes they are that good and that loud. And the sound quality is great too, even when I do turn them up, they don't distort the sound.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 10:11 AM

What is your budget for the receiver and the other for speakers?


Not entirely sure? I've paid progressively more and more. I don't have alot of money but I don't mind paying for quality stuff.


I'll check out those 2.1 Pro Medias I know the local best buy has one instock maybe i'll grab that quick. Last time I check online it seemed they were discontinued?