AMD: PhysX's Nvidia Lock Will Be Its Demise, read this earlier and it was another sad shock for nvidia lovers Options

[cirro]

http://megagames.com/news/html/hardware/am...itsdemise.shtml

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With its latest driver release, Nvidia disabled hardware PhysX support in systems that use an ATI card for graphics along with an Nvidia card for physics.

AMD played down the move and said that this may be the final nail in PhysX's coffin.

"Physics can be a good thing for gamers, but it should be for all gamers. When it's available for everyone, game developers will be able to make physics an integral part of gameplay, rather than just extra eye candy. This requires a physics solution built on industry standards. That's why DirectX 11 is such a great inflection point for our industry - DirectCompute allows game physics that can be enjoyed by everyone. There are several initiatives (some open-source) that will deliver awesome GPU-based physics for everyone, using either DirectCompute or OpenCL. Industry standards will make any proprietary standard irrelevant," said Neal Robison, director of global independent software vendors relationship for AMD.

"There's a real discrepancy between what Nvidia says, and what they do. They 'say' that they are looking out for gamers' best interests. However, decisions like this are the exact opposite of gamers' best interests," Mr. Robison added.

[psycho_terror]

i can't take this seriously coming from AMD.

what exactly are they doing to get any kind of physics to gamers? at least nvidia is satisfying it's own customers, as for AMD, waiting for someone else to do it is not a positive step and i don't think they have any grounds on which to put nvidia down.

there is undoubtably an issue here, and nvidia are at fault, but AMD has not earned the right to be so flippant about this. i can almost guarantee they have done everything they can to make sure physx is not a success, and this is just another example of that.

[cirro]

is AMD hoping that their cards that can handle DX10.1 and whatnot , will be a big enough leverage to out-weigh not having nvidias PhysX support?

This post has been edited by cirro: Oct 11 2009, 01:36 PM

[IVIYTH0S]

i can't take this seriously coming from AMD.

what exactly are they doing to get any kind of physics to gamers? at least nvidia is satisfying it's own customers, as for AMD, waiting for someone else to do it is not a positive step and i don't think they have any grounds on which to put nvidia down.

there is undoubtably an issue here, and nvidia are at fault, but AMD has not earned the right to be so flippant about this. i can almost guarantee they have done everything they can to make sure physx is not a success, and this is just another example of that.

I half agree with your post, but I don't think nvidia is "satisfying their customers" if those customers bought an 8800GT to run alongside their ATI card and can't get it to work.

[cirro]

But think about what you just said... a basic user gets a nvidia chipset, a nvidia card and a ati card. the ATI card will be the only one not functioning to the specifications the user thinks it should. so do they auto blame Nvidia or the card thats not using the PhysX.

its tricky but i think nvidia is going on the "ati isnt working with my nvidia technology.. i better get another nvidia that works right"

idk though.. it seems pretty childish from both ends of the spectrum

[Crazy_Nate]

http://forums.overclockersclub.com/index.p...howtopic=168259

http://forums.overclockersclub.com/?showtopic=168207

I'm sure you can find the 3+ threads talking about how to possibly deal with this

[unknownuser200]

booooo

[cirro]

i couldn't find amd's response to it in them ...

[usaweapon777]

Nvidia could have left things alone but they are a company after all and companies try to make money in whatever way they can. I'm disapointed that they blocked phsyx assist with an ati card with the new drivers but hey who knows maybe that new hydra chip will solve all this lol

[Bosco]

From what I have been hearing AMD needs this to happen since they can't have positive relationships with game developers the way things are now

Time will tell whats going to happen

[The Smith]

But think about what you just said... a basic user gets a nvidia chipset, a nvidia card and a ati card. the ATI card will be the only one not functioning to the specifications the user thinks it should.

Why wouldn't it work to the specifications the user thinks it should?

[unknownuser200]

i briefly scanned through this.. just a though.. can the user use current ati drivers and somewhat older nvidia drviers to still use phys x? or should i read somemore?