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2008 Video Card Roundup |
 Sep 22 2008, 07:51 PM
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 e = MC Hammer  Posts: 5,897 Joined: 21-February 04 From: Southampton, UK Member No.: 8,605  |
We have just published a roundup of the video cards we have reviewed over the past months, which you can read here.
You may find some of the conclusions slightly surprising. --------------------   Recommended Power Supplies List E8400 @ 3.6GHz - DFI Blood Iron P35-T2RL - 4GB Patriot Viper Fin - HD 4850 512MB - X-Fi Xtreme Music |
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Sep 22 2008, 08:18 PM
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 Audio Nut  Posts: 6,678 Joined: 14-February 04 From: Clemson U. Member No.: 8,484 |
What system was this run on? I don't see anything listed.
 EDIT: The systems weren't the same? Awwww... 
-------------------- Desktop: | Q6600 @ 3.2 GHz | 128 GB GSkill Falcon | 8 GB WinTec AmpX | Sapphire 4870 X2 | DFI P35-T2RL | PCP&C Silencer 610 | W7 x64 | HTPC: | X3 720 BE @ 3.4 GHz | 4.5 TB Storage | 8 GB GeIL Black Dragon | PowerColor 4830 | ECS A-780GM-A | ATI Theater 650 Pro | OCZ Fatal1ty 550 | W7 x64 | Router/VPN/Compiling: | Opteron 175 | 4 GB DDR 500 | S3 Trio PCI VGA | Asus A8N-SLI SE | SinTek 500SLI | XP Pro | Office: | Dell Precision 390 | Core 2 Duo E6320 | 2 GB DDR2 667 | XFX 7800GT | Fedora 10 / Windows 7 RC | NetBook: | Asus EeePC 900A | 1.6 GHz Atom | 32 GB SSD | 2 GB DDR2 667 | Intel Integrated | W7 x86 | |
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Sep 23 2008, 08:24 AM
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 Creamed Rice Posts: 441 Joined: 31-July 05 From: Australia Member No.: 16,935 |
You really need to add the system specs (or at least CPU/RAM) or the review is pretty much a void (no offense to your hard work testing that many video cards).
-------------------- Phenom II X3 720 (4th core unlocked) @3.4 stock volts | GA-MA790X-UD4P | 4GB Team Xtreme PC2-1066 | HD4870 512MB | 2x Dell E248WFP
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Sep 23 2008, 01:37 PM
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e = MC Hammer Posts: 5,897 Joined: 21-February 04 From: Southampton, UK Member No.: 8,605 |
QUOTE The performance figures are taken from each product review - Review listSo most of the data uses very similar setups (Q9450 with a Gigabyte X48-DQ6 + the same RAM) Some of the older reviews did use a Q6600 and X38 based board. This post has been edited by jammin: Sep 23 2008, 01:39 PM -------------------- Recommended Power Supplies List E8400 @ 3.6GHz - DFI Blood Iron P35-T2RL - 4GB Patriot Viper Fin - HD 4850 512MB - X-Fi Xtreme Music |
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Sep 23 2008, 02:21 PM
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Audio Nut Posts: 6,678 Joined: 14-February 04 From: Clemson U. Member No.: 8,484 |
QUOTE (jammin @ Sep 23 2008, 09:37 PM)  - Review list So most of the data uses very similar setups (Q9450 with a Gigabyte X48-DQ6 + the same RAM) Some of the older reviews did use a Q6600 and X38 based board. I saw that. I don't want to draw any conclusions about the cards used because the Q6600 and the Q9450 are so different.
-------------------- Desktop: | Q6600 @ 3.2 GHz | 128 GB GSkill Falcon | 8 GB WinTec AmpX | Sapphire 4870 X2 | DFI P35-T2RL | PCP&C Silencer 610 | W7 x64 | HTPC: | X3 720 BE @ 3.4 GHz | 4.5 TB Storage | 8 GB GeIL Black Dragon | PowerColor 4830 | ECS A-780GM-A | ATI Theater 650 Pro | OCZ Fatal1ty 550 | W7 x64 | Router/VPN/Compiling: | Opteron 175 | 4 GB DDR 500 | S3 Trio PCI VGA | Asus A8N-SLI SE | SinTek 500SLI | XP Pro | Office: | Dell Precision 390 | Core 2 Duo E6320 | 2 GB DDR2 667 | XFX 7800GT | Fedora 10 / Windows 7 RC | NetBook: | Asus EeePC 900A | 1.6 GHz Atom | 32 GB SSD | 2 GB DDR2 667 | Intel Integrated | W7 x86 | |
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Sep 23 2008, 03:32 PM
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 OCC Boss Posts: 27,161 Joined: 27-April 02 From: Canada Member No.: 521 |
QUOTE (Thewacokid @ Sep 23 2008, 03:21 PM) I saw that. I don't want to draw any conclusions about the cards used because the Q6600 and the Q9450 are so different. They are not that much different at all and in Gaming they are so close there is not much of benefit. 266Mhz Higher Clock, 1333Mhz front side bus, and 3MB of cache more in gaming means nothing. -------------------- Main Rig
Intel I7 920 MSI X58 Platinum 12 gigs of Mushkin Tri Channel 2 X Nvidia GTX 295 Quad SLI 2 X 1.5 Terabyte Seagate Thermaltake Armour Case 1000 Thermaltake PSU Samsung 30" LCD DIGG OCC! :::: OCC Site Rules :::: OCC Reviews |
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Sep 23 2008, 03:37 PM
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Audio Nut Posts: 6,678 Joined: 14-February 04 From: Clemson U. Member No.: 8,484 |
QUOTE (bosco @ Sep 23 2008, 11:32 PM) 266Mhz Higher Clock, 1333Mhz front side bus, and 3MB of cache more in gaming means nothing. That's a 10% clock speed increase (not even counting other stuff) and that's more than enough to see a difference on the latest high-powered cards. Certainly not a massive difference but when it comes down to it even 10% can be quite a bit. -------------------- Desktop: | Q6600 @ 3.2 GHz | 128 GB GSkill Falcon | 8 GB WinTec AmpX | Sapphire 4870 X2 | DFI P35-T2RL | PCP&C Silencer 610 | W7 x64 | HTPC: | X3 720 BE @ 3.4 GHz | 4.5 TB Storage | 8 GB GeIL Black Dragon | PowerColor 4830 | ECS A-780GM-A | ATI Theater 650 Pro | OCZ Fatal1ty 550 | W7 x64 | Router/VPN/Compiling: | Opteron 175 | 4 GB DDR 500 | S3 Trio PCI VGA | Asus A8N-SLI SE | SinTek 500SLI | XP Pro | Office: | Dell Precision 390 | Core 2 Duo E6320 | 2 GB DDR2 667 | XFX 7800GT | Fedora 10 / Windows 7 RC | NetBook: | Asus EeePC 900A | 1.6 GHz Atom | 32 GB SSD | 2 GB DDR2 667 | Intel Integrated | W7 x86 | |
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Sep 23 2008, 03:44 PM
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OCC Boss Posts: 27,161 Joined: 27-April 02 From: Canada Member No.: 521 |
In most of the games we test the 6600 and 9450 score exactly the same
ccokeman can provide the updated numbers on the stuff that was tested on the older system. Pretty easy to do since I think there was only 6 cards used on the Q6600. -------------------- Main Rig
Intel I7 920 MSI X58 Platinum 12 gigs of Mushkin Tri Channel 2 X Nvidia GTX 295 Quad SLI 2 X 1.5 Terabyte Seagate Thermaltake Armour Case 1000 Thermaltake PSU Samsung 30" LCD DIGG OCC! :::: OCC Site Rules :::: OCC Reviews |
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Sep 23 2008, 04:07 PM
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 Member Posts: 258 Joined: 4-August 08 Member No.: 63,558 |
That GX2 is still crazy
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Sep 23 2008, 04:12 PM
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 The more i teach the dumber i get! Posts: 7,402 Joined: 10-August 03 Member No.: 5,490 |
Lets look at one example. Just for kicks I ran the XFX 9800GTX not the plus mind you with the 177.79 nvidia drivers on the X48 and Q9450 to test your theory.
Here is the crysis link in the original review. Same run same game same settings 2xAA medium settings. for comparison My current results for those settings are as follows 1024===== 57 1280===== 45 1680===== 35 1920===== 27 As you can see the difference in FPS from one cpu and chipset to the next results in a O FPS gain and in fact a loss in at least one instance. For our newest reviews the cards have been rerun with new scores based on new drivers and our standard test setup. -------------------- Processor Intel Core I7 920 x2, I7 965 and more
Memory Mushkin PC3 12800 7-7-7-20 Motherboard MSI X58 Eclipse SLI Graphics Yes I have them all SLI and CrossfireX Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower 1200, Mushkin 800 Monitor Gateway UXD3000 Water Cooling By DangerDen |
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Sep 23 2008, 04:46 PM
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OCC Boss Posts: 27,161 Joined: 27-April 02 From: Canada Member No.: 521 |
Samething happens when you pit a E8400 VS E8500.
-------------------- Main Rig
Intel I7 920 MSI X58 Platinum 12 gigs of Mushkin Tri Channel 2 X Nvidia GTX 295 Quad SLI 2 X 1.5 Terabyte Seagate Thermaltake Armour Case 1000 Thermaltake PSU Samsung 30" LCD DIGG OCC! :::: OCC Site Rules :::: OCC Reviews |
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Sep 24 2008, 08:55 AM
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 Certified Geek Posts: 1,374 Joined: 4-June 06 From: Streets of DIY Member No.: 32,259 |
This is awesome, especially since I've pretty much come to the conclusion I want to buy a new video card. And I love how compared both the price AND performance. First time I seen that done. But the conclusion DOES surprise me, not because of the previous generation winning thing. But because of this quote...
QUOTE So, things change once again when we look at performance and value at the same time. At stock speeds, the Palit 9800GX2 is the clear winner, with all the HD4850-based cards nipping at its heels. Cranking up the clocks we see the Sapphire HD4850 taking the lead, with the Palit 9800GX2 falling to 2nd place, again followed by the HD4850 cards. Since everything is presented via graphical representation all I have to go from is those graphs and the card mentioned in the conclusion were neither the lowest or the highest - they were middle of the road - so no matter if "lower is better" or if "higher is better" ...I still don't see how you arrived at that conclusion.  Really digging the study and i love the direction it took, would like to see that added more often. One thing I was hoping to see in a recent review is a review of a 260 with more processing cores to see if the processing core upgrade makes much of a difference. Was talking with Bowtie and we think even the starting clock speed is less than the EVGA FTW version, if you OCed this bad boy what kind of difference would we see in performance: EVGA - 260 w/ 216 Processing Cores EVGA - 260 w/ 216 Processing Cores - clocked lower |
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