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 Jul 16 2008, 09:31 AM
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Forgive me if this has been posted already, but it definitely caught my eye. Apparently, a class action lawsuit is underway against Nvidia and ATI regarding price fixing over the past 10 years and a creation of a fake power struggle between the two for dominance.
Regarding whether it's true or not is a different story, but interesting indeed: http://www.techpowerup.com/65970/ATI_(AMD)...ainst_them.html -------------------- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
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Jul 16 2008, 09:40 AM
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 You may be getting Facepalmed Posts: 2,370 Joined: 15-November 04 From: Pennsylvania Member No.: 13,596 |
Seems like a BS conspiracy theory to me. One that happens to have prices to back it up. what the heck. This has to be total BS.
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Jul 16 2008, 09:54 AM
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ATi and nvidia fixing prices? Is that why ATi has reported net losses for the past two consecutive years? Because it was planned that way? Blow me, stupid hippies.
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Jul 16 2008, 10:27 AM
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I am not saying they are guilty, but to say it's simple BS, I don't think, is correct.
Look at the graphs and the 34 page lawsuit itself, there is some compelling evidence in there. Prior to 2002 ATI and Nvidia products were always released 3 to 10 months apart from each other with 100 or more dollars in price difference. Starting in 2002, all of the releases were within a month of each other and many were on the same day. Price wise, all of the prices were nearly identical, often exactly identical. As soon as the department of Justice started to investiage in 2006 this immediately changed back to what it was prior to 2002. Now, this doesn't mean they're guilty, but it is certainly enough to raise eyebrows and warrant an investigation. This post has been edited by Capo: Jul 16 2008, 10:28 AM -------------------- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
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Jul 16 2008, 11:40 AM
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You may be getting Facepalmed Posts: 2,370 Joined: 15-November 04 From: Pennsylvania Member No.: 13,596 |
Honestly it is probably by mere coincidence that those things fall into place like that. I would agree that it does warrant investigation but I doubt they will find anything.
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Jul 16 2008, 01:11 PM
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 I'm a thread killer Posts: 5,098 Joined: 11-December 04 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 14,086 |
Sounds like normal market competition to me. You would need far more damning evidence for this to stick
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Jul 16 2008, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE (Capo @ Jul 16 2008, 12:27 PM)  I am not saying they are guilty, but to say it's simple BS, I don't think, is correct. Look at the graphs and the 34 page lawsuit itself, there is some compelling evidence in there. Prior to 2002 ATI and Nvidia products were always released 3 to 10 months apart from each other with 100 or more dollars in price difference. Starting in 2002, all of the releases were within a month of each other and many were on the same day. Price wise, all of the prices were nearly identical, often exactly identical. As soon as the department of Justice started to investiage in 2006 this immediately changed back to what it was prior to 2002. Now, this doesn't mean they're guilty, but it is certainly enough to raise eyebrows and warrant an investigation. Have you even taken a high school economics class? Or did you just sleep through all of it? That sounds like a competitive market, which is what performance video cards is. -------------------- 22 Jan 2010
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Jul 16 2008, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE (Kamikaze_Badger @ Jul 16 2008, 09:13 PM) Have you even taken a high school economics class? Or did you just sleep through all of it? Beat me to it. 
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Jul 16 2008, 02:19 PM
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Combat Medic Infantry Posts: 8,112 Joined: 27-June 04 From: E Co 232 Med BN Member No.: 10,892 |
I beat many things. Women, younger kids, various kinds of meat such as hamburger, et cetera.
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Jul 16 2008, 02:32 PM
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Beating various kinds of meat eh... TMI
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Jul 16 2008, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (hardnrg @ Jul 16 2008, 06:32 PM) Beating various kinds of meat eh... TMI You took the words right out of my mouth. -------------------- Lappy - Gateway FX P-7805u - C2D E8400 - 4gb DDRIII - Nvidia 9800M 1gb discrete (1920x1200) - 320gb hdd Core2Duo E8400 - DFI Lanparty UT P45-T2RS - 4gb OCZ Reaper HPC DDRII 1066 - 600W OCZ GameXStream - Visiontek HD4870 Core i7 920 @ 3.44GHz - DFI LP UT X58-T3eHS - Mushkin 3x 2gb DDR3 - 700W OCZ ModXStream Pro - 2x Sapphire Radeon HD4870 Toxic Ed. Come join OCC IRC... /server irc.skullboxz.net /join #occ Use the Occ IRC JApplet or check out an IRC Client: mIRC : XChat : HydraIRC |
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Jul 16 2008, 05:41 PM
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Combat Medic Infantry Posts: 8,112 Joined: 27-June 04 From: E Co 232 Med BN Member No.: 10,892 |
Well of course. Beating eggs or other binding agents into ground meat makes a huge difference. And some cheap meat can be made a lot better by tenderizing it.
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