TheHolyLancer

alright thanks guys, it is a panaflow 120 * 38mm but are marked as deltas lol (or was ti other way around? don't remember...) and yeah, my TRUE came with the plastic housing clip that the 38mm things just won't fit....

Hi guys, I have a 100 CFM delta from the old SI-120 with the metal clips and the rubber strips, and was wondering if I can simply move those over to the TRUE, I don't know how much weight those clips can hold, as in the SI-120 they are sitting on the cooler and not the clips. Whereas the new stuff uses a plastic bracket, which is great except the thicker deltas I have don't fit in the new cooler since they are too thick..... Also this will be a push/pull config with the original fan as well

I think they cheaped out on the cooler lol, that thing looks similar to my old A64 S939 cooler ffs, and that thing is PUNY, I had to replace with a SI-120 even with my old s939 anyone got experience modding intel coolers to amd sockets to save money? Cuz the I7's cooler is actually decent with a copper base and a larger fan.

can we get a pix of the cooler? Asking since I need to decide on stock vs other methods.... also, is there a chance in hell that I can some how homebrew an stock i7 920 cooler to an AM3 setup? Asking this since I'm trying to do a cheapo build with leftover parts and one of the option is to reuse the idle I7 stock cooler, or to find a damned adapter for an SI-120 (s939) to AM2/AM3 which is very hard up here in canada...

ooooo btw, did you know that my DFI lanparty Ultra-D NF4 cost a good side of 250 dollars when i brought it? and if i wanted the SLI deluxe version with some front bay thingy i would have to drop in 350+ for it? i have spent the sameish (250 vs 300) amount of money on my new x58 mobo and i know it is in the same zone because it offers onboard power and reset buttons that you can use out of the box without connecting them to a case, nicer than normal cooling and capacitors, and the top dogs are the same because they offers the random useless (to me and i think most overclockers whom likes bios better) front bay controllers and other "cool" features. amd and and intel are both smart companies, they play to the role they are in and knows when to squeeze the market, and when to fight to survive, saying one is better than the other is just pure fanboyism

yeah the 754/939/940 => AM stuff was just as bad, if not worse than what intel has done (since i7 is an marked improvement over C2Q/C2D) my bet is, if amd does have an i7 like part, it will be AM3, just as C2D used the same socket as the P4 and the PDs they were meant to replace and one up on amd. they are playing the same game here, there is no "good" or "bad" guys here, just different labels and imo, they got the same stuff, it's just whom has the upper hand in the market. intel long had it, amd upset it, intel is looking for revenge and they pushed the "cheap" 920 with massive OC headroom out, much like how the vinnie could do almost the same thing with OCing and pwned the p4ees of its day while being a "budget/lower end of higher end" part. the "good" (for amd) part of this setup is that it segments the market, allowing it to squeeze in between the cracks with one or two similar brands (remember, C2D just came in one type with different speed setting when amd was having the 754/939/940/AM platform difficulty) also, it would be "better" (for amd and not us current lga 1366 owners) if they killed the 920 i7, and thus making the high end even more higher end and generating back-lash towards intel and let amd play the underdog/david card

me thinks intel is trying to wipe those off the memory of the general public lol that said, try the local cheap refurb computer places, they may have something lol

well, let us all prey that AMD will come with a C2D/ A64 level killer that will knock intel down a notch soon nvidia got into the habit of rebranding as it had the performance crown, and for a time it allowed them to get away with things like rebranding older things to a name closer to newer series so ppl with buy on faith same thing here with intel, faith is what they are all gunning on, not ppl reading the fine specs, or know the history.

hmm so the inheritant fault is with the socket it self, and not with evga's layout/implementation of the socket? I mean if the socket is foxconn or some other OEM, then wouldn't all boards having this rampant issue? or could it be something like evga is not deleting "solved" threads in their forums and thus I can search and find things about this easily, or evga owners are more likely to replace/check/removing the CPU from the socket, thus increasing the chance of a failure? If all I get is silence, maybe I need to head over to asus, gigabyte, DFI and what not's forums and ask there.... but that is hardly an unbiased deal lol...

BUMP, am I to assume that other mobos aren't having these issues en masse?

I've disabled that feature, I'd much perfer an actual jumper (or in my evga's case) a button pressed rest of the CMOS rather than an automated one that may or may not work (this is low lvl setting ppl, one cockup and your machine is dead)

one word, rebrand, i3 will be the existing c2d and c2q with a new name, and presumably they are compatible with the older differently marked stuff.

we've all seem this before, not with intel, but with amd when amd was hammering intel with their a64 stuff, the same bull crap occurred, i3 = older socket from previous gen = intel LGA 775 = socket 754 of amd (prev gen to the s939 ) i5 = mainstream socket of cur gen = intel LGA 1156 = socket 939 of amd (the mainstream vennies, pin incompatible with s940) i7 = high end socket of cur gen = intel LGA 1366 = socekt 940 of amd (brought out as the hammers, their high end stuff) when you have the clear lead over the competition, splitting up the market like this is a great way to milk them look at how intel reacted when they were on the down side, by not introducing new sockets en masse until start of core 2s with LGA775s (they kept the socket 478 for P4) , because the P-D (let me remind you that the PDs were the same socket of P4s with LGA775, similar to how PhIIs are the same to the Ph, but thankfully PhII don't suck as much as the PDs since PhII actually improved things rather than tacked two old cores together and call them native dual core) and P4s blew chunks, same thing with amd now, they are keeping pin compatibility with AM2+/AM3 and all that in order to make drop in replacement and "milk" (more like survive) the market for existing customer to upgrade or build ultra cheap machines from prev gen mobos and parts. to all those that wants cheap and performance, the i5 will have to do, which shouldn't be all that bad considering that if they got 4 cores and the same arch as i7s except the tri channel deal, then they should clock to 4 Ghz as well, unless they some how gimp them so they'd go from say 1.4 ghz lowest end i5 part to only 2.5 ghz OC because of some form of manufacturing cost saving design, or even artificial ones like lack of divider with slower ram speed, this can happen if they claimed advances in memory let them use DDR3-1600 as standard and use a low butt multi and lock the memory divider in a way so you can't use a larger one, example, 200 bck * 8 multi with locked divider of 8 between the ram and bck, and you can only raise that divider to say 10, which allows the ram to still run at 1600 (200 speed) and the bck can only go up to approx 220 and that will yield a 2.2 ghz oc.... be prepared for them to gimp the market with by forcing high dram clocks, and low multipliers, with a method to lock the base clock to a level either by locking the multi so ram has to run faster (expensive to do for now, if you look at DDR3-2000 parts vs 1600 or 800 parts), or by other ways of limiting the base clock with an abysmal multi of below 10 or 15 max, then even if the cores themselves can do 200*21 (4.2 Ghz), you cant get them because parts of the system won't do what is needed. this is how I see it coming from the amd dominance to c2d to i7 era, if you knew how to OC a A64 during the bsish (they did had a kick butt cpu, like the i7 of today) era of 3 sockets, then you'd know what i'm trying to say... as a side note, i kinda see the X2 BE that can be unlocked to be sorta like the Pentium 4 emergency edition (extreme edition), but i can't make a direct claim since the X2 BE isn't marketed as a unlocking godness that brings quad core for cheap, unlike the emergency edition that was touted as the one that would have brought down hammer (FX-51) P.S. i hope the clbuttic bug is here, also for full disclaimer, if you can't tell, I was and somewhat is an intel flamer lol, how the tides have turned, maybe i shouldn't have started to truly OC with amd at age of 14, that comes with a loud mouth and lots of free time rofl

errr there are plenty of 4.2 D0 or 3.6-3.8 C0 I7 OC out there with air.... mine got up only to 4 because I don't want to apply a 1.37V and is running on 1.33V with a TRUE sitting on top of it in a Haf 932 case also, for heat issues, kill of HT and you get like a 5 C (at least) difference...

is there a direct link where a site compared the i7s directly to the newest ddr3 amds? with the same sticks of ddr3 ram, similar mobo (prince range can be a meter stick i guess) and same gfx? Because everywhere I looked said the i7 blew amd out the water, but if the newer amds are getting there (the i7 was released earlier and most reviews compared them to earlier amds) i would love to know.