Coors Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Stock volts isn't even the point I was starting with. I'm just saying when AMD can't overclock higher than Intel's previous lineup than it can be labeled as having limited overclocking headroom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waco Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Stock volts isn't even the point I was starting with. I'm just saying when AMD can't overclock higher than Intel's previous lineup than it can be labeled as having limited overclocking headroom. AMD has never been able to do that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScavenger Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Nice review! Its good to see an AMD quad over 3.0GHz. I can't wait for the 45nm dual core stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baulten Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 The main problem, it seems, with Phenom IIs is that they love the cold, and don't run hot. Now this seems good, except that you can't pump out that 4 GHz + on air as easy because they get too warm, even though "too warm" for them is only in the 50C's. Still, the 955 looks to overclock better than the 940. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coors Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 AMD has never been able to do that... But they have been able to outperform Intel with lower clocks. But the clockspeeds back then weren't really as compareable as they are today as far as Mhz/performance is concerned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waco Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 But they have been able to outperform Intel with lower clocks. But the clockspeeds back then weren't really as compareable as they are today as far as Mhz/performance is concerned. The 940 I just got yesterday clocks to 3.8 GHz on stock voltage. If you call that a poor overclocker...well, I don't know what to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtigerdragon Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 The 940 I just got yesterday clocks to 3.8 GHz on stock voltage. If you call that a poor overclocker...well, I don't know what to say. I call it a poor overclocker! Hah! Now I've made Waco speechless! But I agree that today's chips seem to get really high on stock volts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waco Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 I call it a poor overclocker! Hah! Now I've made Waco speechless! But I agree that today's chips seem to get really high on stock volts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coors Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Where did I say it was a "poor" overclocker? It is "limited" when compared to other chips on the market aka i7. I'm not bashing AMD here. No need to defend it. But I am calling it as I see it and the numbers don't lie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 The 940 I just got yesterday clocks to 3.8 GHz on stock voltage. If you call that a poor overclocker...well, I don't know what to say. Forget about AMD cpu's being poor overclockers. I'd have to say Waco is a poor overclocker though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PingoPongo Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Well for the price its a pretty good processor. Its ~$25 cheaper than the i7 920 Im more of a Intel not a fanboy but something near that, but im starting to like the Phenom II more and more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verran Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Well for the price its a pretty good processor. Its ~$25 cheaper than the i7 920 Agreed! And the real savings comes when you figure in the memory and motherboard which are also both substantially cheaper for Phenom than i7. If people want to spend more money on DDR3 for their PhenomII, they're perfectly able to but I think the real value here is that it still accepts DDR2 and AM2+ motherboards which are very inexpensive and perform just as well. I think when you figure the difference in total cost of cpu/mobo/mem versus the performance differences, PhenomII really shines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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