Overclocking AMD Phenom II x4 965

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I'm not sure if I can agree that 200MHz won't make a difference, because in BF3 with 3.6 GHz and the same GTX 760 I got like struggling 25-30FPS in the docks map, after OCing a bit further to 3.8GHz fps raised up to 55-60FPS. But still, thanks for the opinions. Might upgrade to a newer Phenom II in future, like 980 since I've heard not many good things about the FX processors.

 

that is definitely not the 200mhz push, that is something else that was wrong with your system. 

if you are planning on upgrading and wanna stick to amd, get an 1100t or something, that will actually improve your system rather then putting the same processor in there with a little mhz bump.

 

Problem is I can't find that 1100T anywhere on sale, and I'm not sure how many applications actually support more than 4 cores.

 

 

then i would suggest to go for intel for a change, save up some money and get a 2500k or higher series i5 plus a nice motherboard to go along the way.

this way you don't have to upgrade the cpu for at least 5 years or so if the cpu's are clocked @4.0ghz or higher.

 

plus you will get a boost you will never thought of

 

That may be true, however I always try to get the best of the best and the Intel CPU I guess I'd go for is the 3770k since it's quite popular, but after I saw its pricing it was a definite "hell no" from me, at least for now. As for motherboard I did find a good cheap PCI-Express 3.0 supporting one. Until then I guess I'll have to use whatever I can get.

 

 

get the 3570k instead, an i5 is plenty to go for in terms of gaming and other duties.

plus it is a lot cheaper than the 3770k, an i5 is the same as an i7, except it doesnt have hyperthreading - which games dont use.

 

Now that's something more reasonable, price wise. Will it support my Cooler Master V8? Is the overclocking process same as AMD's? Because I'd love to have 3.8/4.0GHz on that Intel processor.

 

 

4.0ghz should be a breeze on that processor, you get probably 50% performance increase if you would go for the 3570k vs 965 both @ 4.0ghz, even more if you can get it to 4.5ghz - which isn't uncommon.

you should look up what sockets the v8 supports and it should support 1155 because the cooler-socket is the same as the 1156, and that socket is getting old already (more than 3 years now)

 

overclocking is done through increasing the base clock, its nothing special really, increase base-clock = increase clock-speed.

the only difference it would make is that the base-clock also increases memory-clocks so you might want to lower those clocks to 1333mhz if the ramsticks are 1600mhz, just to be sure.

there are plenty of overclock guides on occ but if you are the least familiar with overclocking you should be fine.

 

one thing i should note is that you must not skimp on the motherboard, otherwise you get the same problems you have now with your 965.

look up on google what boards getting what clocks, although not 100% accurate, it is a good indication what to expect from what board.

 

I'm looking at not too bad PCI-Express 3.0 supporting motherboards, I just don't know if I'll have to update BIOS on it to support the Ivy Bridge, because in all honesty, those Ivy Bridges and Sandy Bridges don't mean nothing to me right now. All I'm looking at is if it's socket LGA1155 then I'm getting an LGA1155 socket motherboard. How does MSI B75A-G43 sound?

[WarWeeny]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure if I can agree that 200MHz won't make a difference, because in BF3 with 3.6 GHz and the same GTX 760 I got like struggling 25-30FPS in the docks map, after OCing a bit further to 3.8GHz fps raised up to 55-60FPS. But still, thanks for the opinions. Might upgrade to a newer Phenom II in future, like 980 since I've heard not many good things about the FX processors.

 

that is definitely not the 200mhz push, that is something else that was wrong with your system. 

if you are planning on upgrading and wanna stick to amd, get an 1100t or something, that will actually improve your system rather then putting the same processor in there with a little mhz bump.

 

Problem is I can't find that 1100T anywhere on sale, and I'm not sure how many applications actually support more than 4 cores.

 

 

then i would suggest to go for intel for a change, save up some money and get a 2500k or higher series i5 plus a nice motherboard to go along the way.

this way you don't have to upgrade the cpu for at least 5 years or so if the cpu's are clocked @4.0ghz or higher.

 

plus you will get a boost you will never thought of

 

That may be true, however I always try to get the best of the best and the Intel CPU I guess I'd go for is the 3770k since it's quite popular, but after I saw its pricing it was a definite "hell no" from me, at least for now. As for motherboard I did find a good cheap PCI-Express 3.0 supporting one. Until then I guess I'll have to use whatever I can get.

 

 

get the 3570k instead, an i5 is plenty to go for in terms of gaming and other duties.

plus it is a lot cheaper than the 3770k, an i5 is the same as an i7, except it doesnt have hyperthreading - which games dont use.

 

Now that's something more reasonable, price wise. Will it support my Cooler Master V8? Is the overclocking process same as AMD's? Because I'd love to have 3.8/4.0GHz on that Intel processor.

 

 

4.0ghz should be a breeze on that processor, you get probably 50% performance increase if you would go for the 3570k vs 965 both @ 4.0ghz, even more if you can get it to 4.5ghz - which isn't uncommon.

you should look up what sockets the v8 supports and it should support 1155 because the cooler-socket is the same as the 1156, and that socket is getting old already (more than 3 years now)

 

overclocking is done through increasing the base clock, its nothing special really, increase base-clock = increase clock-speed.

the only difference it would make is that the base-clock also increases memory-clocks so you might want to lower those clocks to 1333mhz if the ramsticks are 1600mhz, just to be sure.

there are plenty of overclock guides on occ but if you are the least familiar with overclocking you should be fine.

 

one thing i should note is that you must not skimp on the motherboard, otherwise you get the same problems you have now with your 965.

look up on google what boards getting what clocks, although not 100% accurate, it is a good indication what to expect from what board.

 

I'm looking at not too bad PCI-Express 3.0 supporting motherboards, I just don't know if I'll have to update BIOS on it to support the Ivy Bridge, because in all honesty, those Ivy Bridges and Sandy Bridges don't mean nothing to me right now. All I'm looking at is if it's socket LGA1155 then I'm getting anLGA1155 socket motherboard. How does MSI B75A-G43 sound?

 

 

euh it works but you wont get 4.0ghz on that motherboard, it is really cheap and not really made for overclocking.

you can better look for the Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 motherboard, that is one of the best and cheapest boards you can get.

Edited October 11, 2013 by WarWeeny

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I'm not sure if I can agree that 200MHz won't make a difference, because in BF3 with 3.6 GHz and the same GTX 760 I got like struggling 25-30FPS in the docks map, after OCing a bit further to 3.8GHz fps raised up to 55-60FPS. But still, thanks for the opinions. Might upgrade to a newer Phenom II in future, like 980 since I've heard not many good things about the FX processors.

 

that is definitely not the 200mhz push, that is something else that was wrong with your system. 

if you are planning on upgrading and wanna stick to amd, get an 1100t or something, that will actually improve your system rather then putting the same processor in there with a little mhz bump.

 

Problem is I can't find that 1100T anywhere on sale, and I'm not sure how many applications actually support more than 4 cores.

 

 

then i would suggest to go for intel for a change, save up some money and get a 2500k or higher series i5 plus a nice motherboard to go along the way.

this way you don't have to upgrade the cpu for at least 5 years or so if the cpu's are clocked @4.0ghz or higher.

 

plus you will get a boost you will never thought of

 

That may be true, however I always try to get the best of the best and the Intel CPU I guess I'd go for is the 3770k since it's quite popular, but after I saw its pricing it was a definite "hell no" from me, at least for now. As for motherboard I did find a good cheap PCI-Express 3.0 supporting one. Until then I guess I'll have to use whatever I can get.

 

 

get the 3570k instead, an i5 is plenty to go for in terms of gaming and other duties.

plus it is a lot cheaper than the 3770k, an i5 is the same as an i7, except it doesnt have hyperthreading - which games dont use.

 

Now that's something more reasonable, price wise. Will it support my Cooler Master V8? Is the overclocking process same as AMD's? Because I'd love to have 3.8/4.0GHz on that Intel processor.

 

 

4.0ghz should be a breeze on that processor, you get probably 50% performance increase if you would go for the 3570k vs 965 both @ 4.0ghz, even more if you can get it to 4.5ghz - which isn't uncommon.

you should look up what sockets the v8 supports and it should support 1155 because the cooler-socket is the same as the 1156, and that socket is getting old already (more than 3 years now)

 

overclocking is done through increasing the base clock, its nothing special really, increase base-clock = increase clock-speed.

the only difference it would make is that the base-clock also increases memory-clocks so you might want to lower those clocks to 1333mhz if the ramsticks are 1600mhz, just to be sure.

there are plenty of overclock guides on occ but if you are the least familiar with overclocking you should be fine.

 

one thing i should note is that you must not skimp on the motherboard, otherwise you get the same problems you have now with your 965.

look up on google what boards getting what clocks, although not 100% accurate, it is a good indication what to expect from what board.

 

I'm looking at not too bad PCI-Express 3.0 supporting motherboards, I just don't know if I'll have to update BIOS on it to support the Ivy Bridge, because in all honesty, those Ivy Bridges and Sandy Bridges don't mean nothing to me right now. All I'm looking at is if it's socket LGA1155 then I'm getting anLGA1155 socket motherboard. How does MSI B75A-G43 sound?

 

 

euh it works but you wont get 4.0ghz on that motherboard, it is really cheap and not really made for overclocking.

you can better look for the Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 motherboard, that is one of the best and cheapest boards you can get.

 

It has some kinda OC Genie thingy that OCs the processor without touching any of those things in BIOS, but okay. The 3570k and Z77 leaves me with a price tag of 301

[WarWeeny]

you dont have to use those features and it is wiser to oc with the settings you know you tweaked, otherwise it can be a hell to find out what was wrong with it

[RedFury77]

I went from a phenom II x4 940 @3.6 to a i5-3570k z77 setup this year.  I'm really happy with it, I can hit 4.8 with this chip but leave it boosting up to 4.6 for my daily OC.  I picked up the ASUS p8z77v-lk board and the chip at microcenter for a really good price.  

 

Only thing I don't like about the z77 is the lack of sata 6gb ports.  The new z78 and AMDs 990 boards have a ton of them while the z77 only has 2 plus 4 sata 3gb ports.  Two ports is just enough for the ssd and big hdd.  Not a big deal really but my backup drive is on a 3gb port. 

 

If you can actually find a decent 1090/1100t chip, it's would be a good step inbetween, but I couldn't find one that wasn't crazy overpriced.  Why spend 200 bucks when 300 will get you a better newer setup right?

[Gunsmoke]

I went from a phenom II x4 940 @3.6 to a i5-3570k z77 setup this year.  I'm really happy with it, I can hit 4.8 with this chip but leave it boosting up to 4.6 for my daily OC.  I picked up the ASUS p8z77v-lk board and the chip at microcenter for a really good price.  

 

Only thing I don't like about the z77 is the lack of sata 6gb ports.  The new z78 and AMDs 990 boards have a ton of them while the z77 only has 2 plus 4 sata 3gb ports.  Two ports is just enough for the ssd and big hdd.  Not a big deal really but my backup drive is on a 3gb port. 

 

If you can actually find a decent 1090/1100t chip, it's would be a good step inbetween, but I couldn't find one that wasn't crazy overpriced.  Why spend 200 bucks when 300 will get you a better newer setup right?

Then I guess it is decided. Although it would be my first time using an Intel processor I just hope I won't break anything when overclocking hah. I'm a sucker for when it comes to ultra smooth FPS in games as well as good and fast video rendering when it comes to 720p/1080p videos.