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  1. That was my plan, its just my let down past experience with a "colormunki photo" and the monitors at office that makes me sceptical if i can calibrate properly a non factory calibrated Korean wide gamut monitor . I am still processing about the possibility of giving so much money and ending up with two huge monitors that i can't bring to proof either CMYK or sRGB right (*) and / or look off (or unrealistic or annoying) with the possibility of being able to send them back being rather poor. (* Partly maybe because i don't do something right or i dont get something right)
  2. Its mentioned in few places in web, (one is here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?240965-Standard-Gamut-S-IPS-LCDs&p=4153716&viewfull=1#post4153716 ) that if using Radeon, enabling EDID under color temperature settings in CCC equals sRGB emulation in a wide-gamut monitor. Is that so ? So far i am told that no Korean 30" yet, has sRGB emulation mode
  3. Im using 2x Dell 2410 monitors, as for the Korean monitors, I know nothing more than reviews currently out. From what i've read, it doesn't have all the bells and whistles so I can't see it having anything more than sRGB. From what i read everywhere all those korean 30" are wide-gamut LG panels ... without bells and whistles in most cases. Some though are fully equipped.
  4. 2) I would say a bit more vibrant if you are not use to it. After about a week you stop noticing it. I found it just comes from realizing what the colors are suppose to be compared to years of going on OCC and seeing certain shade of blue instead of a off purple you become use to seeing lol. The thing is with my colour requirements that i need to see my designs and photo editing mainly as they appear on average mainstream devices (aprox sRGB i suppose) AND CMYK offset printing which colour range is even more limited and duller than sRGB.
  5. Cow, what monitors you have? Do you happen to know maybe anything about the Korean 30" ones?
  6. I suppose the 30" apple cinema in my office and my home 24" HP ZR24W are operating on a factory default sRGB emulation mode ? They are both connected to mainstream cards and their colors are looking like sRGB level of saturation / vibrance. I think those monitors are both wide-gamut ?
  7. Thanks! Some things to confirm 1. are there standard gamut monitors that can reproduce 90%+ of the sRGB space and do it correctly? (and also have good tonal scaling ?) 2. colours on a wide gamut monitor (calibrated or not) connected on a pro graphics card do not appear oversaturated and over vibrant ? (opposed to how they appear on a wide gamut monitor connected to a commercial graphic card) 3. all 30" monitors are IPS and wide-gamut?
  8. the thing is that most IPS monitors (i think) and especially all 30" monitors are wide gamut. I am not aware actually of IPS monitors that are not wide gamut and i am these days looking to confirm if it is like that or not. And the quality ones either operate by default in sRGB emulation or have the option to select sRGB emulation mode (or even other modes like adobe RGB) An sRGB monitor reproducing accurately AND fully the sRGB space is (by experience) enough -for me- for proofing either CMYK or sRGB design. But the monitors that can reproduce at a great percentage the sRGB space (and not at around 75% as mainstream consumer monitors and tvs do) and do so also correctly, are usually wide-gamut monitors (of either IPS or more rarely some TN panel technology) that operate in sRGB space (emulation). If i am not wrong standard gamut monitors cannot provide representation of 90%+ of the sRGB space nor have the tonal scaling qualities required for design work. Its a complicated matter for me and i am still learning , maybe some of my conclusions are wrong here.
  9. i forgot about that too myself. Does that mean that the Cinema 30" i have at work connected to consumer nvidia and the HP ZR24W i have at home connected to a an HD 7870 are actually non wide gamut monitors? I didn't get what you mean about the locked Calibration device. You are saying that the lacie blue eye V2 will work indeed with that xrite software? (And if so, the question still is that software free to use?) i might also have access to a "colormunki photo", either to borrow or buy. But i guess even manual calibration, on a wide gamut monitor that is connected to a consumer graphics card won't manage to make it look sRGB, and the colours will be oversaturated and over vibrant ?
  10. Maybe i should had said sRGB emulation mode, maybe is more accurate term. I am not sure its what you are talking about I cant afford the brand IPS monitors from Dell & HP & Apple, LaCIE & Eizo and i understand that those Korean 30" monitors are IPS panels (LG from what i gather) and they are wide gamut. But my experience with wide gamut monitors that don't operate in an sRGB emulation mode is that they they are way oversaturated and vibrant beyond the average sRGB-like appearance of most devices let alone print processes. In my company i work on a 30" apple cinema, which doesn't have any setting apart from brightness but its factory calibrated in such a way that my print work is not far from the image on screen neither my web work from the average commercial screen. At home i currently have an HP ZR24W with which i am also satisfied for web and print design work and photography, just the cinema seems more accurate for print work and the HP seems more consumer oriented, emphasizing vibrancy - saturation and i also had to work a little with its OSD settings. If i am not wrong, what i understood is that both those IPS monitors are wide-gamut monitors but they operate in sRGB emulation mode. I once had a short experience with colormunki and trying to calibrate the monitors in office but the results were off from what i remember ... I am trying to find out before i order two of those korean IPS 30" monitors which ones and if , they have sRGB emulation mode, that i guess even if its off, might probably easier to bring close to normal / correct sRGB reproduction than just pure wide gamut which i think will never look like sRGB (or CMYK) no matter how well is calibrated (those vibrant eye-penetrating reds for example dont seem to ever desaturate in a pure wide gamut operation no matter the OSD or driver level color settings) Although their price is half or less of branded ones and especially since i am ordering two its a considerable cost and where i am ordering from is quite a hulk of a hussle to manage to return if any possible at all, in case that they suck and cant do the job i need them for ... So in case that none of them comes with sRGB emulation mode, if i know that at least it is possible (or not) to calibrate them manually to represent with decent accuracy sRGB (and CMYK when the application (indesign, illustrator, photoshop) calls and proofs for it. Because from what i saw with a pure full wide gamut monitor on a consumer graphics card at least , it has been impossible for me to bring it to proof CMYK) that would be critical info to proceed with a purchase or not They seller selling the Blue Eye V2 quite cheap claims it can be used with "X-Rite i1 Display 2" software, but i havent been able to figure out yet if thats freely downloadable or has to be bought , and what's the price. If possible to avoid manual calibration, i would prefer that on any given day, and if i cant avoid it i'd prefer the most straight forward - idiot proof decently reliable solution
  11. I need two 30" monitors for design and photography, but the budget limits are leading me to Korean market.
  12. i am curious what RAM those two guys used ... (or they spend 400 bucks on memory back then?)
  13. What type of DDR2 memory did you use ? Was it ECC non-registered ? ECC registered ? or non ECC & non registered ? The only 4gb DDR2 modules i can find now, as being determined to try 16gb on my P35 board too, are for servers , they are all ECC & registered.
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