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#1 Kylothian

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:28 AM

Howzit peeps

 

 My knowledge on laptops is VEEEEEEEEEEERY limited :withstupid:

 

My birthday is coming up soon (critical information this and im sure everyone cares), im looking into investing into a laptop, going to be used for work purposes and gaming (lan's) and all that cause dragging a pc everywhere is becoming a hassle... plus i really want a laptop

 

 

Now what im currently looking into investing is the Mecer Xpression W370ET.

It Comes with a decent graphics card and I can get the barebone for quite cheap with the basic of parts (4gb of ram 320gb hhd and a i3 cpu) the parts i want to replace it with i can get at a very good price from my suppliers

 

Some upgrade idea's i have in mind

 

The laptop comes with:

3 ram slots which im going to kit with 3x 8gb corsair vengence

2 HHD bays which im going to install a 120gb ssd for OS and prolly a 750 or a tb WD black drive for storage

 

Thats all good and dandy this is what im curious about is the following I can get the lappy with a Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM Processor or i can get it with a cheaper i3 processor and get a decent i7 processor from suppliers at the same price its going to cost me getting the Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM.

 

Now i've been searching high and low trying to find out what motherboard this lappy has and what socket it support. I've discovered the Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM is a "FCPGA988" type socket which im guessing is a laptop type socket and i wont be able to swap this out for a  i5-3570K or a i7 3770... for instance? or is there a way this is possible?

 

As i say knowledge on laptops very VERY limited... the mecer is for me sofar the best bang for buck and upgrading it to my liking is not going to be all that expensive... if I can't upgrade the cpu i'll prolly stick with the i7 they provide... I was just curious if the lappy cpu was upgradable...

 

Some random links for anyone curious:

 

Lappy cpu : http://ark.intel.com/products/71459
Lappy: http://www.mecer.co....pression-w370et

the ram im going to install: http://www.corsair.c...m1a1600c10.html

 

 Maybe im over complicating things and causing headaches :wallbash:, i really like this laptop... going to kit it out with the ram, hhd and all that was just curious about the cpu  :thx:

 

also might have posted this in wrong thread sorry


Edited by Kylothian, 16 April 2013 - 05:22 AM.


#2 DanTheGamer11

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 04:26 AM

Can't put a desktop CPU into a laptop motherboard, pin layout and TDP won't allow for it. Broken link for RAM :(

 

Only place I've seen laptop pin CPUs for sale is ebay at not so amazing prices and usually engineering sample.. though I did see a GTX560M for $99

 

Don't forget to get a 2.5" or whaetver HDD, and unless the Laptop comes with two HDD bays and a DVD drive, I assume there is space only for a SSD and DVD drive or a SSD and HDD with no DVD. In the link below it states that it has two SATA ports soo...

 

Is the price that different from a Sager?

 

More info here :P

http://www.laptopdir...hp?laptop=64250


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 05:32 AM

Fixed link for ram

 

Fair enough was just curious in hopes i could "pimp" the lappy to my spec but I'll be happy with the Cpu. The lappy comes with 2 HHD bays and a DVD drive AFAIK... will double check on that.. but honestly who uses dvd's these days :P so prolly going to kit it with 2 hhd, I have a external dvd drive for just in case.

 

 

Is the price that different from a Sager?

 

More info here :P

http://www.laptopdir...hp?laptop=64250

 

Thats pretty much where I am getting the laptop... well the barebone unit of it and then the ram, drives and additional toys im getting from suppliers as it is going to work out cheaper than getting it through them. That's why I was curious on the cpu cause I can get a very nice chip for a decent price. But all in all after i've fully pimped out the lappy should run like a dream  :no:

 

Im still browsing around for lappy's but sofar for what I am getting and price I'm paying its a beaut and best option

 

If I had the funds i'd go for a xps or ROG but sadly bit out of my budget



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Posted 16 April 2013 - 07:34 AM

I'd recommend checking the maximum amount of RAM supported by the laptop motherboard too. :thumbsup:

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:09 AM

I'd recommend checking the maximum amount of RAM supported by the laptop motherboard too. :thumbsup:

Multiple websites say 24GB, But according to Sager and other websites only i7s support over 16GB and With Windows Professional 7 and up... not sure if it's a marketing ploy.

 

@OP - The RAM looks decent, not sure if you really need High Performance RAM in a laptop, get it if you don't really mind spending money. Also be sure the 2nd HDD doesn't need a caddy/mount..

 

You be from NZ?


Edited by DanTheGamer11, 16 April 2013 - 08:21 AM.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:31 AM

It can run 24gb of ram, buddy of mine has same laptop... suppose 16gb is enought but why settle for 16 when u can have 24gb...lol I prefer using that ram cause its trusted.... Im sure its not needed but hey if I have the option why not.

 

Im sadly from South Africa so our pick of choices on lappy's and parts are very limited... .There are awesome lappy's out in the world but importing it is going to nail me on costs sadly, and as I figured out most people overcharge just to wear there name on the laptop :( so unfair

 

Thanks for the advice kinda forgot about the mount.... so will just double check that :)

 

Will update if I change my mind

 

 

Edited by Kylothian, 16 April 2013 - 08:33 AM.


#7 Kylothian

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:32 AM

 

I'd recommend checking the maximum amount of RAM supported by the laptop motherboard too. :thumbsup:

 

 

Also be sure the 2nd HDD doesn't need a caddy/mount..

 

You be from NZ?

 

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Edited by Kylothian, 16 April 2013 - 08:36 AM.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:39 AM

For a gaming laptop you need to look at three things in order of importance

1) Graphics, get the best graphics card you can afford

2) then aim for a better CPU between similar models that have that best GPU in question, (i5 at minimum but i5 will be just find to feed the stronger GPUs)

3) SSD, it'd just make the system better overall (usually cheaper to seperate from the laptop when building or speccing one out)

 

Honorable mention

RAM: really 8GB will be perfectly fine for anything you'd be doing, unless you've maxed out the other three categories I'd not upgrade the memory passed 8GB. (most high end models should have atleast 8GB)

Resolution: This is really important for image quality and productivity when not gaming, but keep in mind that it will be the achilles heel when gaming and you may have to lower settings or the resolution down to something easier like 1366x768 for better framerates. Personally I'll never get a laptop that doesn't ATLEAST meet the resolution of my last laptop. (1st laptop: 1280x800, 2nd: 1680x1050, 3rd: 1920x1080, 4th: 1920x1080)

 

Hope I've helped...


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#9 Kylothian

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:26 AM

Ive taken pretty much all that in account...

 

1. The lapppy comes with a  GTX 660M - which is decent...anything higher than this is going spike up the price outside my budget

2. comes with options of i3,i5 or i7 decided on the i7 cause im not planning on buying or upgrading anything anytime soon

3. SSD is a must (never used one), ive gone with this lappy because it does come with 2 hhd bays, so an SSD (120gb prolly) for OS and then a HHD ( WD Black 750) for storage

 

Prolly 8gb is enough, Im considering just pimping it with 16gb of ram and ill be sorted... if i feel its REALLY needed ill shove in another stick.

Resolution I refuse to get a lappy running less than 1920x1080, Ive eliminated alot laptops that I like just because they didnt offer the correct resolution

 

Im doing my research extensively before im buying, sofar this laptop is the only one fullfulling what im looking for

 

Thank you for the input


Edited by Kylothian, 16 April 2013 - 09:27 AM.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 02:13 PM

Yeah I wish "standard" laptops were 1600x900 instead of 1366x768...there's such a price hike and rarity of 1080p laptops.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:28 AM

>>>UPDATE<<<

 

Order is going in next week...

 

Ive decided on the Mecer Xpression W370ET lappy - kitting it with:

 - 16gb of corsair vengeance (2x 8GB 1600hmz) Ram

 - 1x 120gb Corsair Vertex 4 SSD

 - 1x 750GB WD Scorpio Black 7200 2.5 HHD

 

For cooling im going with

Cooler Master NOTEPAL X3, BLACK, FOR 17", AERODYNAMIC AIRFLOW DESIGN, FRONT VENT

http://www.coolermas...product_id=3075

 

Additional accessories:

 

Bag - still choosing between - http://www.manhattan...mputer-backpack

 and                                      - http://www.roccat.or...es/ROCCAT-Into/

 

Got myself the Roccat Isku Keyboard

 - http://www.roccat.or...ds/ROCCAT-Isku/

Going to stick with the Roccat peripherals just looking for a mouse I like

 

Then my upgrading is done forever....(translation -> for now) 

 

Thanks for all the input thus far guys

Cant wait for payday



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 07:51 AM

Actually, you can put a desktop CPU in a laptop if you have a Clevo X570SE that takes up to the I7 3970X :)

 

Overall, you can generally swap a CPU for one of the same generation providing the TDP is the same or lower than the one you already have. Most bios for laptops have the microcode for i3's all the way to the upper end i7's. You have probably a 99% chance of any i3, i5 or i7 working. IT's like with ram. Most companies say certain laptops max out at 8gb ddr3 with 2 ram slots but you can often run 2x 8gb modules if you have the money for 16gb total. This was the case for most C2D laptops using the Santa Rosa platform. Most laptops running Santa Rosa could run the X9000 though it was not officially supported and up to 8gb for those with the money to buy the 4gb modules.

 

Of course, there is always that chance that if running a lower end consumer grade laptop that there might be missing microcode for many CPU's preventing you from up or downgrading your machine.


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