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AMD Phenom II X4 965 Processor New Revision Tested |
 Nov 3 2009, 09:12 PM
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Alan tests the new revision of the Phenom II 965
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/phenom2_965_refresh/ -------------------- Main Rig
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Nov 3 2009, 09:23 PM
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 Posting Nut  Posts: 7,219 Joined: 15-March 07 From: Pennsauken, NJ Member No.: 20,152 |
I just don't know what to say about this one
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Nov 3 2009, 09:38 PM
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 Free yourself from yourself Posts: 2,262 Joined: 29-April 08 From: Texas Member No.: 32,050 |
QUOTE (IVIYTH0S @ Nov 3 2009, 11:23 PM)  I just don't know what to say about this one , nice reviewwhat? new revision, overclocks better, lower TDP. Pretty good move, especially with the price. This post has been edited by damian: Nov 3 2009, 09:39 PM -------------------- Antec 300
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Nov 3 2009, 09:39 PM
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i'll agree, nice review!
I'm glad to see the price tag has come down from outer space! especially with the 955 being only 200mhz "slower" and only ~$180, so it's good to see the 965 refresh priced more appropriately. Second, what also piqued my interest is that AMD seemed to "fix" the memory controller issue where only two sticks of 1333/1066 (DDR3/DDR2) were functional with the chip... I'm glad they corrected whatever it was and hope to maybe see a refresh of the whole PII line, with the fixed mem controller. also, lowered TDP is never a bad thing, especially when the chip performs equally, or in this case, better. -------------------- Steam: fearspartan117
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Nov 3 2009, 10:04 PM
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Posting Nut Posts: 7,219 Joined: 15-March 07 From: Pennsauken, NJ Member No.: 20,152 |
QUOTE (damian @ Nov 4 2009, 01:38 AM) what? new revision, overclocks better, lower TDP. Pretty good move, especially with the price. doh! I didn't look at the price, forgive me  . I'm losing my touch!
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Nov 4 2009, 12:36 AM
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Is it just me or are the results pretty much within the margin of error for nearly every test? The new and old one look identical to me (except for temperatures under load of course and final clock speed).
EDIT: I guess the GTX260 is the limiting factor for the gaming tests but the others are damn near identical too.  For the price if most of them clock like that AMD has a winner. 
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Nov 4 2009, 04:07 AM
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 Forum Wars - OCC Captain Posts: 2,939 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Quebec, Canada Member No.: 31,336 |
QUOTE (Waco @ Nov 4 2009, 03:36 AM) Is it just me or are the results pretty much within the margin of error for nearly every test? The new and old one look identical to me (except for temperatures under load of course and final clock speed). EDIT: I guess the GTX260 is the limiting factor for the gaming tests but the others are damn near identical too. For the price if most of them clock like that AMD has a winner. Performance at stock has not changed significantly. Overclocked vs. overclocked would have been a great comparison. Great review overall though! This post has been edited by The Smith: Nov 4 2009, 04:13 AM -------------------- Socket 1366 OC competition - 3DMark Competition - AMD Overclocking Competition - OCC IRC (channel #OCC)   QUOTE (IVIYTH0S @ Sep 13 2009, 02:55 AM) I did honestly believe there would be a 5870x8. |
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Nov 4 2009, 07:48 AM
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 Philosophy begins in wonder. Posts: 2,898 Joined: 18-February 06 From: Yorktown, VA Member No.: 32,176 |
Well, what'd you guys expect? It's the same processor with a lower TDP and better C1E support. The price is a nice addition, as are the good temperatures.
The two respective overclocks (old / new revisions) are 3.913GHz and 4.038GHz, both at 1.5V. Given the close speeds, I would think that the benchmarks would be just about as close as the two CPU revisions @ stock (or say, the previous 965 review, with the 955 as a comparison). Given that these processors do seem to overclock better, I wonder if the 965 can beat out the top 955 clocks on extreme cooling? -------------------- Mine:DFI SLI-DR EXPERT -- Opty 180 + Lapped TRUE -- Patriot 2x1 GB -- XFX 8800GTS 512 @ 700 -- Xplosion WD 80GB (XP MCE SP3) / SG 250GB (Vista Business X64 SP1) -- PCP&C Silencer 610 -- TT Armor -- Sharp Aquos LC-32GP1U 1080p GF's: DFI SLI-D (04/06/2006) -- AMD 3800+ opty heatsink -- Patriot 2x1 GB -- 9600GSO384 -- OCZ GXS 600W Recommended Power Supplies 1 - Recommended Power Supplies 2 - DFI NF4 "proper" CMOS clear - Tmod/Logan's DFI Bios Flash & Utilities DVD |
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Nov 4 2009, 08:44 AM
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 this is what happens when you spend 100 years before the pc Posts: 1,457 Joined: 3-June 09 From: cairo , egypt Member No.: 67,610 |
with that new release , who is better 955 or 965(the new one ) for overclocking i heard that the first 965 overclocks the same as 955 ..is that true ..
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Nov 4 2009, 08:48 AM
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Forum Wars - OCC Captain Posts: 2,939 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Quebec, Canada Member No.: 31,336 |
QUOTE (N.E.A @ Nov 4 2009, 11:44 AM) with that new release , who is better 955 or 965(the new one ) for overclocking i heard that the first 965 overclocks the same as 955 ..is that true .. ..?If you're talking about overclocking on air, no. The 965 C2 overclocks better than the 955 C2. Now the 965 C3 goes even further. -------------------- Socket 1366 OC competition - 3DMark Competition - AMD Overclocking Competition - OCC IRC (channel #OCC) QUOTE (IVIYTH0S @ Sep 13 2009, 02:55 AM) I did honestly believe there would be a 5870x8. |
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Nov 4 2009, 08:56 AM
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this is what happens when you spend 100 years before the pc Posts: 1,457 Joined: 3-June 09 From: cairo , egypt Member No.: 67,610 |
QUOTE (The Smith @ Nov 4 2009, 06:48 PM) If you're talking about overclocking on air, no. The 965 C2 overclocks better than the 955 C2. Now the 965 C3 goes even further. ok that works for me , but what about water , you said QUOTE (The Smith @ Nov 4 2009, 06:48 PM) If you're talking about overclocking on air so i got the feeling that the situation will be different under water .. -------------------- You do not have to be geek to tweak...:)
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Nov 4 2009, 09:23 AM
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Forum Wars - OCC Captain Posts: 2,939 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Quebec, Canada Member No.: 31,336 |
QUOTE (N.E.A @ Nov 4 2009, 11:56 AM) ok that works for me , but what about water , you said so i got the feeling that the situation will be different under water .. I did not try it personally since I never ventured into water cooling, but I'd bet that the 965 C2 still goes farther than the 955 C2. Where the 955 seems to overclock better than the 965 is under LN2. -------------------- Socket 1366 OC competition - 3DMark Competition - AMD Overclocking Competition - OCC IRC (channel #OCC) QUOTE (IVIYTH0S @ Sep 13 2009, 02:55 AM) I did honestly believe there would be a 5870x8. |
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