First build...ever., Ack! Rating Options

[Deman Risu]

Topic title says it all - I've never built a computer from scratch, but (if it counts for anything) I've taken a few computers apart and put them back together.
I'm trying to stay under $650 including tax and shipping... I'll mostly be playing Source games and Call of Duty 4/5.

Here's my parts list: (Updated 9th November, 2009)

APEVIA X-DREAMER3-BK Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail ($50)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811144253

Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive ($55)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136358

XFX PVT98GYDLU GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail ($110)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814150316

COOLER MASTER Elite 460 RS-460-PSAR-J3 460W ATX12V V2.31 Power Supply - Retail ($35)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817171046

Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1339 - Retail ($70)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820148262

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail ($79)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128392

AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDZ550WFGIBOX - Retail ($102)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103680

EXTRAS:

ENCORE ENLWI-G(2) TPCI Standard Universal Add-in card Compliant with PCI 2.0 Wireless Adapter - Retail ($13)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16833180030

SAPPHIRE DVI to VGA adapter for Twin-View video cards Model DVI-2-VGA - OEM ($3)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814999201

Total cost: around $590 including mail-in rebates

Questions:
Will it all fit together and work together? (I'm planning to run Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit)
Will it come with all of the cables that I need to attach the parts?
I have an IDE 80GB Seagate hard drive. Will I be able to use that in the build to host my media?

Thanks from a complete noob.

This post has been edited by Deman Risu: Nov 8 2009, 08:08 PM

[premiumgfx]

First of all, welcome to OCC!

It looks fine to me in terms of compatibility/fitting together.

As for the cables, I'm afraid I'm not sure if an open box item in Newegg will come with them. Newegg say: "Open Box" products have been tested only to ensure basic functionality, and may not include all the accessories seen here.

Hopefully some other OCCers will have experience with open box motherboards and can answer your question.

You should be able to use your IDE HDD with your new PC (the motherboard you chose has an IDE port), although you may need to format it (delete everything on it) before you can use it in your new PC. (Other OCCers please correct me if I'm wrong)

Thanks
PremiumGFX

[Deman Risu]

Thanks for the reply!
I've gutted an old HP PC. Will I be able to use the (behemoth) cable which connected the motherboard to the hard drives?
Or, can I buy a cable off of Newegg, cheap? I don't want to spend too much more money on this.

[premiumgfx]

Is it an IDE Cable? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDE_Cable) Or is is a SATA cable? (Like this: http://www.dakltd.co.uk/catalog/images/sata.jpg)

You will be able to use your old cable, but bear in mind depending which cable it is (based on above) you'll need to get the other one if it doesn't come with the motherboard.

[N.E.A]

how about going for amd ..?
the build may cost as much but will be a lot faster and upgradeable


WELCOME TO OCC..........


here it is

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103680


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820211364

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128392

and you can get better gpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814121350

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814121291

one thing , if there is spare money you can get phenom ii x3 710 it will be far better but 550 is faster than e7500 , it can keep up with e8400 and beat it , right now 775 is dead ..
if some one wants to get intel then he has two choices one
spend ton of money on i7 or half ton on i5
and the other choice is wait till i3 comes out , and i think it will not be cheaper ..
any way amd is the best in your budget ..and for upgrading ..etc
look at my sig

This post has been edited by N.E.A: Oct 25 2009, 02:55 AM

[SpikeyBoiCahir]

i would recomend asus striker extreme or asus rampage 2 as ur motherboard...
ive heard alot of bad things about the deluxe one.

-Spike

[N.E.A]

i would recomend asus striker extreme or asus rampage 2 as ur motherboard...
ive heard alot of bad things about the deluxe one.

-Spike

first , his budget can not get a board like striker , or rampage , the deluxe is one of the best p45 boards ...
and even if he could spend 5000$ lga 775 is dead , you can not upgrade it and you will be wasting money core 2 quads are overpriced ..
right now the upgradeable platforms are : AM3/AM2+ ..1156 ..1366
the best of the them is AM3/AM2 since you can upgrade easily and you wont spend ton of money

if you looked at 1156 the cheapest cpu costs 200$ and the cheapest board is like 115 $ also it needs ddr3
AM3/AM2+ can run on ddr3 and ddr2 the cheapest cpu is under 100 and i think it is athlon ii x2 the cheapest board is under 80$
we are looking at ( bang for the buck or price / performance )

This post has been edited by N.E.A: Oct 25 2009, 03:06 AM

[Deman Risu]

Is it an IDE Cable? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDE_Cable) Or is is a SATA cable? (Like this: http://www.dakltd.co.uk/catalog/images/sata.jpg)

You will be able to use your old cable, but bear in mind depending which cable it is (based on above) you'll need to get the other one if it doesn't come with the motherboard.

It's an IDE cable, with markings such as "MASTER", "SLAVE", and "CPU BOARD".

how about going for amd ..?
the build may cost as much but will be a lot faster and upgradeable
(wall of recommendations)

I like the idea of the AMD processor (will look further into it tomorrow, it's late night over here in Australia). The motherboard is a sound recommendation, but I went with 3x1GB OCZ Gold DDR3 RAM. I'm amazed at how cheap it all is, much cheaper than the Intel hardware.

Thanks for the welcome

i would recomend asus striker extreme or asus rampage 2 as ur motherboard...
ive heard alot of bad things about the deluxe one.

-Spike

Orly? Inversely, I've heard a lot of bad things about the Striker Extreme. And I'm trying to stick to $600 here - the Rampage 2 is between $200-$300 depending where you buy it from (it's not on Newegg) and the Striker Extreme is $230! Also, if I want to use the AMD processor as N.E.A. suggested, I'll have to choose another motherboard.

This post has been edited by Deman Risu: Oct 25 2009, 03:40 AM

[Flibo]

I'm running on a P5Q PRO which I think is pretty much the same as DELUXE and I've never heard a bad thing about it and it runs great. I'd say that it's a great choice. About the CPU and GFX, I agree with N.E.A., AMD and ATI could be a better bang for buck at the moment.

[N.E.A]

I agree with N.E.A., AMD and ATI could be a better bang for buck at the moment.

thanks

but gts 250 is good but for 20 $ a more powerful gpu can be bought .. and it is dx 11 although it is priced like 4870 , 4870 kicks its butt
at high res at least , i know it can match it and gtx 260 as well but we demand performance over dx support ..
i would have recommended gtx 260 for the same price as 4870 5770 but i could not find any ..

[Crazy_Nate]

Personally, I'd swap out the xclio power supply for a corsair: Corsair 450VX (review here)

I'd also recommend getting a 2x2GB kit, or at least a 2x1GB kit of DDR2 800

Don't plan on bringing the O/S over from a prebuilt...

[Deman Risu]

Specs updated: I've hit the $600 mark including shipping and tax!

Just to clarify:

I'm not bringing over Windows from the Seagate drive... it has Windows XP installed on it xD

Any thoughts?